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Tedster
04-13-2005, 02:11 PM
From: Recreational Boating Association of Washington
Re: LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS-WE NEED BOATERS HELP

By now many of you have heard that SSB-5145 for Mandatory Boater
Safety Education passed the Washington State House of
Representatives, 68-Yea and 30-Nay. Working with the Washington
Alliance for Mandatory Boater Education (WAMBE), RBAW was
instrumental in helping pass this bill in both the House and the
Senate. Thank you everybody for your hard work and legislative
support! Your e-mails and phone calls were crucial in this success

Our next step is to get Senate concurrence on the minor amendment to
exempt commercial fishermen and professional operators from carrying
the Boater Education Card. The Senate indicated the amendment should
be no problem. RBAW agrees with the amendment.

This is our biggest victory yet for boater education in Washington,
and hopefully it will all be downhill to the Governors desk. We will
keep you posted on the final results. We are very optimistic, BUT WE
ARE NOT DONE with the Legislature just yet.

NEW SUBJECT: On completely different boating subject, we must ask
you to pick up your pen again, fire up your computer, or call you
legislator one more time.

You have probably heard reports in the Media that the legislature is
considering raising the gas tax in Washington State.

The purpose of this e-mail is not to debate the pros and cons of
raising the gas tax. We want to make sure that the tax paid on gas
used in boats is reinvested in boating.

When Washington Boaters go to the fuel dock and purchase gasoline for
a boat, boaters pay this GAS TAX, which is included in the price of
your marine fuel (not diesel). The majority of the now 28¢
(proposed to be increased) per gallon gas tax is a road tax and
intended to be paid by drivers of cars (not boats!) to maintain
highways, bridges,and ferries. Boats have been declared exempt from
road the tax, however the boater must file for the refund. (see info
at:
http://www.rbaw.org)

By law, the Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation (IAC)
receives a percentage of the revenue created from the gas tax to fund
itsoutdoor recreation grant programs. Right now, there is a CAP in
place on the amount that goes back to the agency. If the state raises
the gas tax, it is only fair that the cap be removed and the money
generated by boaters is invested in boating.

PLEASE contact your State Senator and your 2 State Representatives
NOW and ask them to remove the cap on funds for the Interagency
Committee for Outdoor Recreation so that all funds go where they were
originally intended... if they do raise the gas tax.

You can go to < http://www.leg.wa.gov > to find your Legislators,
and e-mail or call them today. Sample message below.

By now you should be getting a lot of practice contacting your
legislators. If we can get the boater education bill passed and this
gas tax refund increased, this will be a great year for boating in
Washington. For every extra penny the IACreceives from boating, it
means one more big project they can fund each year. For information
on the boating facility grants go to:
http://www.iac.wa.gov/iac/grants/bfp.htm

Thanks for your continued support.
-David Kutz
RBAW President
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04-13-2005, 03:16 PM
Screw the Boater Education Bill! Just some more bureaucratic crap we don't need. Another "feel good" funding package that's gonna cost well more than it helps. You wanna make boaters safer... make the manufacturers foot the bill for 1st time owner training. :) Ted'll show 'em... 8)

Let us have our road tax back and stop trying to legislate safety. This isn't about new laws, new money sources or new ideas to bilk Washingtonians out of their cash.

You wanna be fair... AUTOMATICALLY give the marina operators tax exemption. That would solve all of it. It woudl ALL go to the marinas. Gas prices would reflect it... Marinas would prosper and the guys on the hill (AND the Recreational Boating Association of Washington AND the Washington
Alliance for Mandatory Boater Education) can find funding lines somewhere else.

See where this is going??? We've now got a lobbiest organization chasing the coins. Never a good thing. :evil:

Go Aweigh2452
04-13-2005, 06:16 PM
yeah but if you removed it all together from the marinas then the GS 12's and 13's will be out of work and would have to find another govt job... scheesh! Where is your american spirit? We pay, they play...

04-13-2005, 06:53 PM
You see struggling Mom & Pop marinas out there trying to make it everywhere you go. I say give the money to them. We'll all benefit.

AND when they start rakin' in the dough because they're worth the gas to get there... they'll pay their taxes and the wheel goes 'round...

:D

Fred P
04-13-2005, 10:57 PM
SomeSailor said it well. It is one more right gone, one more tax and it will do little if anything for boating safety. It feels good to the do gooders. I wonder how many more the Queen can put on her staff?

Fred P...............

Go Aweigh2452
04-14-2005, 07:35 AM
I still cannot figure out how the queen increased the budget by such a huge percentage over the last couple of budgets and we still have cut and eliminated many programs... she has a lot of special interest programs out there... she ran on... NO NEW TAXES but she really meant... (but increases on old ones are OK)

heymagic
04-14-2005, 07:37 AM
Seems like any fuel dispensed on the water into a boat shouldn't have the road tax anyway. If someone walks in with a can they add the tax. Marina gas is usually more than the road tax higher than regular stations anyway. The state is banking (groan) on people not sending in for the refund.

beyond kelp
04-30-2005, 05:27 PM
BOO HISS RBAW

Dave C
05-01-2005, 07:29 PM
This is a brilliant piece of legislation. Check this out from the bill as passed. Subject to the Queen's approval.

"The schedule for phase-in of the mandatory education requirement by age group is as follows:
January 1, 2008 - All boat operators twenty years old and younger;
January 1, 2009 - All boat operators twenty-five years old and younger;
January 1, 2010 - All boat operators thirty years old and younger;
January 1, 2011 - All boat operators thirty-five years old and younger;
January 1, 2012 - All boat operators forty years old and younger;
January 1, 2013 - All boat operators fifty years old and younger;
January 1, 2014 - All boat operators sixty years old and younger;
January 1, 2015 - All boat operators seventy years old and younger;
January 1, 2016 - All boat operators "

AND THE EXCEPTIONS:

"(3) The following persons are not required to carry a boater education card: . . . . .
(j) Any person born before January 1, 1955."

IF you do the math a person 60 years old in 2014 would have been born in 1954 :!: :?:

No wonder there are so many lawyers in this country. A bunch of them are in Olympia. Job security.

BRILLIANT just &^%$ BRILLIANT

Thank You . I feel better. End of rant :argh

Go Aweigh2452
05-01-2005, 08:05 PM
Well, I guess I should not care due to my b-day before 1951? But I do care and I think they are really missing "the boat" on this one... the problem I see is what/who/how much are they going to use to OK the course to get a card?

TollyWally
05-03-2005, 07:05 PM
I find it hard believe anyone on this board would think that the Boater education bill is a good thing. Does anyone in thier right mind think that driver's ed for boaters will really improve anything?

All this means is more police presence on the water and diminished freedom for all. Whoever is behind this bill should be cursed and soundly horsewhipped, not applauded.


This is probably the worst thing to ever happen to boating on Puget Sound. The exemption for commercial fishermen is only when they are actually fishing. If they are running a pleasure boat they need the card.
That's a fine bit of logic. I'd better stop and cool off before I say what I really think!

TollyWally

Lazy Flamingo
05-03-2005, 07:08 PM
Some of the New England states have similar in place already .... :roll:

dumluck53
05-03-2005, 07:23 PM
IDIOTS!
------N. Dynamite