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Go Aweigh2452
02-21-2006, 09:40 PM
Well, almost done. Ripped out old carpet (Bayliner does not spare the glue when they glue down that carpet... But the hard part was grinding the fiberglass underneath somewhat smooth and under the sides so the floor edge is hidden by the side carpet. Lots of clean up to do before the Admiral sees the mess. Amazing how much fiberglass dust is created with a Makita grinder... Will have pictures when done. Got one more 22" section to do plus fill in one edge along the galley. I have to let the glue dry overnight before I attempt anymore movement of the floor. Learned that lesson the hard way...

I'm not getting any younger... my muscles are going on strike as well as my back. Had a rough time of it gluing it all down and broke one plank trying to fit it in place so I wrestled with that for a while with the glue starting to set up and me trying to "slide" the new section into place......

Overall, I'd do it again... just not this week...

Roel Jansen
02-21-2006, 11:27 PM
Doug,

Very curious about the pictures!

SomeSailor
02-22-2006, 07:40 AM
Did you build up some sort of sub-flooring to put the hardwood stuff on? How do you think it's gonna do over time with expansion?

I saw the laminate that Harry was putting in his. I dunno if I was quite sold. It'll be interesting to see the differences Doug makes.

Randygh
02-22-2006, 04:17 PM
I talked to the Admiral about putting in a nice wood sole and she said no because it would be too cold when walking barefoot to the head in the middle of the night. It is a long walk, about 5'. :D

Doug--are your boat's cabin floorboards removable? The floor boards in mine are removable and it might be hard to put in new flooring and still have the ability to remove them.

Go Aweigh2452
02-22-2006, 05:28 PM
Randy, no the flooring is not removeable so that is not an issue.

I took pictures and have the following powerpoint slide show. It goes without clicking... 7 secs each page... Overall, I like the way it turned out. We'll see how it holds up. I was very surprised at how ratty the carpet I pulled up was. Even though we cleaned it a lot, it was still fugly... and was not pleasant smelling either... BTW, the Admiral wants a throw rug on it for the dog... go figure... :roll: anyway...

http://www.curtisnjrotc.com/powerpoints/newdeck.pps

while the flooring was setting up, I changed out most of the zincs... got the one at the front of the BII to change out but did not want to pull the boat out so I could raise the outdrive... (SS, I even got a new pencil zinc...)

av8djc
02-22-2006, 05:46 PM
Looks GREAT Doug. I think I'll do the Tolly like that. Don't want to put any "real" money in it so I think this is the right answer.

Randygh
02-22-2006, 05:48 PM
Doug--The new floor looks great. Is it an oak laminate?

SomeSailor
02-22-2006, 06:30 PM
That looks great Doug... Matches your new hatch up forward perfectly too. Much better idea than the carpet. I'm surprised Bayliner hasn't gotten something like that in their product line yet.

Excellent job!

Go Aweigh2452
02-22-2006, 06:47 PM
Randy, yes, it is red oak laminate.

FYI, I cut under the sides of the cabin and slid the floor under to keep from having to place edge molding along the floor. Seems to have worked OK. Will see when we get some moisture... But because it is laminate, I do not expect it to swell/shrink too much. ;)

thanks for the kudo's...

next 2 projects:
-install an XM antennae on top of the boat and run it to the cabin radio center...
-install keel guard along the bow

3788sam
02-22-2006, 06:48 PM
Much nicer then the carpet-
Showed my admiral she liked it alot, and I got to show her why I still have a set of drums from a 66 mustang in the garge!
Never know when you might have to hold a floor while the glue sets up!

TollyWally
02-22-2006, 08:51 PM
Is that a Pergo type product? A melamine overlay on a mdo core, or more like a parquet plywood like laminate? Also what type of adhesive did you use?

Go Aweigh2452
02-22-2006, 10:10 PM
I got the laminate at Costco Its called Harmonics laminate flooring ($5 off currently thru Mar5th) so for 1 box= 17 sq ft: $19.99
Unfortunately, they did not have the Brazilian Cheery so I opted for the Cottage Oak.

I got the glue from ACE. Its for glueing flooring down. Cost is $5/qt.

Roel Jansen
02-22-2006, 11:50 PM
Doug,

Really looks very nice! I was told that when it was done in my boat that if you glued it well, it would prevent moisture doing nasty things.

As the boat is in the Shed at the Marina we don't have any real experience yet but I think it's a great improvement.

Go Aweigh2452
02-23-2006, 06:09 AM
Since I normally keep my boat in the garage, I may be OK with moisture concerns. But we'll see. I'd hate to have to remove it. It's glued in pretty tight and there is nothing but fiberglass underneath so I may be OK.

I did find a penny embedded in the fiberglass dead center of the cabin floor. I left it there...

Anyone else ever come across a penny in a power boat? I know we would see that at the foot of a sailboat mast... but this is the first in a powerboat that I am aware of. I'm surprised Bayliner would spend the money... OK, only kidding... that last part was a joke... so no one get excited OK???

sunnydude2
02-23-2006, 09:11 AM
Did you seal the seams with silicone when you installed? The Costco brand is the knock off of Uni-click (european leader in laminate) that we installed in our house. It was the only one at the time that you could even think about safely installing in a bathroom due to moisture. They recommend sealing the seams and edges to prevent water from getting in there.

Your install looks nice.

Go Aweigh2452
02-23-2006, 09:29 AM
Sean, I am still waiting for the glue to set totally before I seal around the edges where I can. The fit is very tight around the edges since the flooring tuck under the sides up to 1/2 inch. Once the edges are sealed, I will shove the side carpeting behind the flooring edges and I think that should hold nicely... should be a good seal even if SS doesn't ssecure the coffee pot and it spills on the floor...

Tedster
02-23-2006, 09:33 AM
Doug, anyway you can post a couple of the good pic's in the gallery, I don't have power point and would like to see your project to show others.
Thanks, Ted

Randygh
02-23-2006, 09:35 AM
Doug--I went to Costco last night and they had pallets of the flooring you used. Four or five different woods. I noticed on the boxes the flooring is "glueless". Do you think a glueless application would work in a boat? Here on the dryside, mold between the floor and subfloor would not be a consideration.

tolly28
02-23-2006, 10:27 AM
Last summer we put bamboo flooring down in the cabin of our boat. We love it! It was nice to get rid of the nasty old carpet.

I've never liked carpet on a boat....

Nice install!

SomeSailor
02-23-2006, 10:43 AM
Do you think a glueless application would work in a boat? Here on the dryside, mold between the floor and subfloor would not be a consideration.

Saw Harry do that to his 2858. Wasn't real happy with the floating floor part of his. I think gluing it solid might be a better way to go (as Doug has). Sure looks nice.

Go Aweigh2452
02-23-2006, 12:57 PM
Randy, depending on your application and the "squareness" of the deck will depend on if you glue it down or not. I think it is better to glue it all down in my case since I have no access to the bildge anyway and you do. Only time will tell.

Ted, I'll post a couple of pics for you...

Go Aweigh2452
02-23-2006, 01:02 PM
Ted, here you go...

http://www.iboatnw.com/gallery/data/media/12/DSC00281.JPG

http://www.iboatnw.com/gallery/data/media/12/DSC00280.JPG

I still have some clean up and tucking of the carpet to do...

Tedster
02-23-2006, 01:54 PM
Nice, very nice, looks great, thanks! Ted

bradvo
02-23-2006, 07:55 PM
I really need to get my back fixed so I can finish my hardwood floors in the Galley after viewing these pixs.
Lookin good.
Brad