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Go Aweigh2452
02-27-2007, 04:57 PM
February 27, 2007
Contact: Pat Pattillo, (360) 902-2705

Salmon forecasts indicate low return of chinook, coho to most areas this year

OLYMPIA - Prospects for salmon fishing are down this year with fewer chinook and coho expected to return to most rivers in the region, according to preseason forecasts developed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and treaty tribes.

Anglers can look forward to strong returns of pink salmon to Puget Sound this summer, but sockeye returns to Lake Washington are not expected to be sufficient to allow a fishery.

Forecasts released today for chinook, coho, sockeye, pink and chum salmon mark the starting point for developing 2007 salmon-fishing seasons in Puget Sound, the Columbia River and Washington coastal areas. Fishery managers have scheduled a series of public meetings through March before finalizing fishing seasons in early April.

Lower chinook and coho returns will require additional restrictions for anglers this year throughout most of the region, said WDFW Director Jeff Koenings. The low salmon returns are due to several factors, including poor ocean survival, he said.

"Conservation is key in developing these fisheries, especially in a year when chinook and coho runs are down in a number of areas," Koenings said. "Fisheries must be selective and focused on hatchery-origin salmon to allow wild fish onto the spawning grounds, where they can take advantage of habitat improvements."

Meanwhile, WDFW continues to reform hatchery and harvest management operations aimed at restoring wild salmon populations, Koenings said.

Pat Pattillo, salmon policy coordinator for WDFW, said the department will propose an expansion of mark-selective fisheries, which require anglers to safely release any wild fish they intercept while targeting and keeping hatchery salmon.

"Selective fisheries have been successful in protecting depressed stocks while maintaining sustainable fisheries on abundant salmon populations," Pattillo said. "A year like this highlights our need to establish more selective fisheries."

Salmon populations listed under the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA) will continue to restrict many fisheries throughout the region, Pattillo said.

In Washington's ocean areas, anglers will see constraints again this year because of the ESA listing of lower Columbia River coho and chinook, he said.

The forecast for Columbia River chinook is about 337,000 salmon, down nearly 128,000 from last year's forecast. Fall upriver "bright" chinook returns, a component of the total run, also are expected to be down this year.

In Puget Sound, the forecast for chinook, including ESA-protected salmon, is similar to last year at about 238,000 fish. Puget Sound coho returns should drop this year to about 630,000 fish, nearly 343,000 less coho than the 2006 forecast.

While forecasts for chinook and coho are generally down throughout the region, fishery managers are expecting good returns of other salmon species.

About 3.3 million pink salmon are expected to come back to Puget Sound streams this summer, nearly 1.3 million more fish than forecasted in 2005. The smallest of the Pacific salmon species, pink salmon return to Washington's waters only in odd-numbered years.

The forecast for the Green River this year is 1.3 million pink salmon, while about 800,000 pinks are expected to return to the Snohomish River and 780,000 to the Puyallup River. However, a fishery for pink salmon in the Skagit River is unlikely because the forecast of 90,000 fish is far below the minimum return of 330,000 salmon necessary to consider a recreational fishery.

Another bright spot is chum salmon, which are once again expected to return in strong numbers to Hood Canal and other areas of Puget Sound.

But the prospects for a Lake Washington sockeye fishery are not good this year, Pattillo said. The sockeye forecast is about 124,000, well below the minimum return of 350,000 sockeye needed to consider opening a recreational fishery in the lake.

State, tribal and federal fishery managers will meet March 5-9 in Sacramento, Calif., with the Pacific Fisheries Management Council (PFMC) to develop options for this year's commercial and recreational ocean chinook and coho salmon fisheries. The PFMC establishes fishing seasons in ocean waters off the Pacific Coast.

Five additional public meetings have been scheduled in March to discuss regional fisheries issues. Input from these regional discussions will be considered as the season-setting process moves into the "North of Falcon" and PFMC meetings, which will determine the final 2007 salmon seasons. The meetings are set for:
March 7 - Puget Sound fisheries discussion, 7 p.m.-9 p.m., WDFW Mill Creek Office, 16018 Mill Creek Blvd., Mill Creek.
March 12 - Columbia River fisheries discussion, 9 a.m.-5 p.m., Vancouver Water Resources Education Center, 4600 S.E. Columbia Way, Vancouver, Wash.
March 19 - Grays Harbor fisheries discussion, 6 p.m.-8 p.m., Montesano City Hall, 112 N. Main Street, Montesano.
March 21 - Willapa Bay fisheries discussion, 6 p.m.-8 p.m., Willapa Harbor Chamber of Commerce Community Center, 916 West 1st Street, South Bend.
March 26 - Willapa Bay and Grays Harbor fisheries meeting, 10 a.m.-3 p.m., Natural Resources Building, 1111 Washington Street S.E., in Olympia.

Two public North of Falcon meetings, which involve planning for the numerous fishing seasons on Washington's waters, including Puget Sound, also will take place in March. The first meeting is scheduled March 13 at the Community Center in Lacey; and the second meeting is scheduled March 27 at the Lynwood Embassy Suites. Both meetings will begin at 9 a.m.

The PFMC is expected to adopt the final ocean fishing seasons and harvest levels at its April 2-6 meeting in SeaTac. The 2007 salmon fisheries package for Washington's inside waters will be completed by the state and tribal co-managers during the PFMC's April meeting.

Preseason salmon forecasts, proposed fishing options and details on upcoming meetings will be posted as they become available on WDFW's North of Falcon website (http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/northfalcon/ ).

SPUD
02-28-2007, 07:47 AM
I just love fishing for Pinks in the Salt and this is going to be a banner year for them. On the Fishtale 2, I am mounting 4 Scotties and 2 Outriggers to run 6 rods total.

Can't wait for the first tangled mess :D :D

Spud

Go Aweigh2452
02-28-2007, 08:26 AM
with that many downriggers, you're going to need a crew... I can be available if given a few... minutes... notice ;)

SPUD
02-28-2007, 09:07 AM
I am thinking of an IBNW fishing party or two during the peak run. That would be a hoot ! :D

Spud

kirkster5
02-28-2007, 04:57 PM
Never fished for "Pinks". Would love some tips!

SomeSailor
02-28-2007, 06:15 PM
with that many downriggers, you're going to need a crew... I can be available if given a few... minutes... notice ;)

Doug;

That's a ride you gotta try sometime... Fishtale is one BADASS Trophy!

Maybe since Spud's moving up... you could work a deal. You won't find a nicer... or faster 28 footer around here.

Humpies are easy: Start at around 20-30 feet EARLY in the day... gradually head down about 10' an hour until ya get to 60'-65'. Use a small pink or white hoochie (squid) and a small white or pink dodger. Flashers work well too, but you'll slaughter 'em on a small dodger.

A few years back... we could put 3 limits aboard (18 fish) in a few hours of fast paced fishing. Bob and I have pretty routinely gotten 2 limits before 9:00-10:00 when the run is on.

Take good care of the fish, clean 'em and get 'em on ice right away and they're good on the grill and smoke really well too.

Go Aweigh2452
02-28-2007, 06:33 PM
ss, been on fishtale and she does fly...

SPUD
02-28-2007, 08:12 PM
Just got to find the school and attack with pink......bleed em and get them into a KatchKooler with the ice away from the fish. They put up a great fight and like Mike said, you can catch a lot, just take care of them. The Fishtale is sold (brother) and will stay in the family. I really love that Trophy. The Fishtale 2 should splash in less than a month. Not as fast as the original Fishtale, but with the sat HDTV, a smooth ride, and all the fishing fixins' , I "think" I will be OK. Doug, SS and Kirkster are in on the first PINK ATTACK.

Spud

SomeSailor
02-28-2007, 08:52 PM
Say the word Nelson.

I'm a workin' stiff again... but I get sick leave now ;) (and I am NOT afraid to use it)

jturbo
03-02-2007, 08:05 AM
Hi guys!

last year I watched the board religiously for tips and tricks for saltwater salmon fishing. I never did get out on the sound for fishing last year. But i was out for the first solid week of the fishery on lake washington. And was ashamed to say I never even got a bite! I would really love to meet up for a IBNW fishing party on the sound! I'm pretty sure I have all the gear I need, and lots of friends who would love to go! I really just need some hands on help and pointers too show me how its done! Either that or I'm just a really bad luck charm, and you guys wouldn't want me within miles of your fishing spot! :)

Either way, the idea of a IBNW fishing party sounds like a hoot! I'm totally in!

SomeSailor
03-02-2007, 08:57 AM
If you've got room for a deck hand in mid-august.... I can show ya how to get the humpies and then the silvers in the first weeks of september. :)

I'll have tons of sick leave built up by then :)

jturbo
03-02-2007, 01:16 PM
perfect!

I could definetely use a deck hand! and september sounds great! shoot me a message on my personal email: jeremiah@heliosimaging.com

and we can make some plans!

cheers!
jeremiah

Go Aweigh2452
03-02-2007, 05:19 PM
Jeremiah, just make sure you secure the coffee so ss doesn't spill it...

SomeSailor
03-02-2007, 08:33 PM
Yeah... I can spill some coffee... that never changes... :)

Randygh
03-02-2007, 09:47 PM
Spud--What is a Katchcooler? A special ice chest for fish? Why don't you put the humpies on ice?

When I catch fish, usually trout or silvers, I bleed them with a gill cut then put them on ice in a thick walled styrofoam cooler. When I worked in Alaska, we shipped fresh reds on ice. The fishermen would bring in a very fresh catch, we butcher them, ice 'em, pack 'em and take them to the airstrip for shipment on Reeves Aleutian Airline. We'd be sure the time from catch until the plane was just a few hours.

Tedster
03-02-2007, 10:02 PM
Yes it is a soft sided cooler in the shape of big fish that keeps them cold and easy to transport. :D

SomeSailor
03-03-2007, 07:23 AM
Spud--What is a Katchcooler? A special ice chest for fish? Why don't you put the humpies on ice? ..... to the airstrip for shipment on Reeves Aleutian Airline.

Katch Kooler's are one SPUD's inventions. I've got one and they work great. It reminds me of a rifle case, but half as long. It's an insulated bag about 30" long or so and has a leakproof zipper and sewn seams. Inside there is a nylon divider that lets you keep the fish and ice separated. They work VERY well. Great for carrying fish home from the boat without the mess of a cooler. I carried a nice King all the way from Sieku a few years back when fishing with Doug. Kept the fish ice cold for a half dozen hours and I hand carried the fish on the ferry without leaks. Pretty cool.

Humpies don't do well in direct contact with the ice because their flesh is pretty soft.

Reeves Aleutian huh? I used to date a gal out in Adak who worked for them. Are they still flying?

Randygh
03-03-2007, 06:14 PM
I think Reeves is still flying. A client of mine is a tugboat skipper out of Dutch harbor. We works one month then is home for 1 month. He said he flies Reeves out to Dutch.

SPUD
03-06-2007, 08:25 AM
Mike,

Thanks for the thumbs up on the KatchKooler. West Marine, Sportco, OutdoorEmporium all carry them or you can get them direct from Silver Horde in Lynnwood. Might as well pick up some FlasherBags and FishFlags at the same time !!!!

Spud

Pegasis
03-06-2007, 12:07 PM
Hey Jerahiah

Next time there's a sockeye fishery on Lake Washington look me up. I usually get my fish early AM and get to working with the Seafair Dive Team around 09:00. Look for a 20' Trophy with a fluorescent red stripe on the side, slightly angled like a coast guard boat.

Terminal tackle for me has been a size 0 herring dodger and a single red hook. Leader length approximately 2X the length of the didger including the ring and swivel on the dodger. Also remove the clip from the dodger to impart a little more action on the hook. Also smear some smelly jelly on the dodger. Any flafor of smelly jelly works as long as it's shrimp.

Roy N.

jturbo
03-13-2007, 08:47 AM
Thanks for the heads up Pegasis! I think I did everything you mentioned except clipping the dodger, I haven't heard that one before. Hmm and now that you mention it, im not sure that I used shrimp flavored smelly jelly. I don't think i did!

I'll definetely look you up next time! Thanks!