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05-13-2005, 01:33 PM
For you military types... you might recognize a few of these. This is an "unofficial" list that surfaced this morning through email:

BRAC List - Just off the Press
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Army bases currently proposed for closure or realignment in 2005
include:

Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania
Detroit Arsenal, Michigan
Fort Belvoir, Virginia
Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico
Fort McPherson/Gillem, Georgia
Fort Monmouth, New Jersey
Fort Monroe, Virginia
Fort Polk, Louisiana (to realign)
Fort Richardson, Alaska
Fort Sam Houston, Texas
Fort Shafter, Hawaii
Lima Army Tank Plant, Ohio
Natick Soldier Center, Massachusetts
Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey
Redstone Arsenal, Alabama
Rock Island Arsenal, Illinois
Sierra Army Depot, California
Yuma Proving Ground, Arizona
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Air Force base closures and realignments include:

Altus AFB, Oklahoma
Beale AFB, California
Brooks AFB, Texas
Cannon AFB, New Mexico
Columbus AFB, Mississippi
Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota
Goodfellow AFB, Texas
Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota
Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts
Kirtland AFB, New Mexico
Los Angeles AFB, California
McConnell AFB, Kansas
Nellis AFB, Nevada (to realign)
Seymour Johnson AFB, North Carolina (to realign)
Shaw AFB, South Carolina
Vance AFB, Oklahoma

The Air Force will lose 2,260 military and 2,839 civilian manpower positions, and 1,055 reserve drill authorizations next year, according to the 2004 force-structure announcement released July 23.
Many bases, both active duty and reserve component, are affected by the realignment. In many cases, units will gain aircraft and missions, while others will pare down.

Besides manpower reductions, the realignment formally announces the retirement of the C-9A Nightingale and KC-135E Stratotanker aircraft.

According to Air Force officials, the 20 C-9s are being retired because of reduced-patient movement, range limitations and increasing
maintenance and upgrade costs. The aeromedical-evacuation mission will become a requirements-based system using all passenger-capable aircraft.

The service will retire 44 of the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve Command's 43-year-old KC-135Es next year, replacing them
with 24 KC-135Rs from the active-duty fleet. By the end of fiscal 2006,
the Air Force will have retired 68 of the KC-135Es.
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Naval base closures and realignments include:

Ingleside Naval Station, Texas
Naval Postgraduate School, California
Naval Air Station Meridian, Mississippi
Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst, New Jersey
Naval Recreation Station Solomons Island,
Naval Surface Warfare Center Crane, Indiana
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division, Virginia
Navy Supply Corps School, Georgia
New Orleans Naval Support Activity, Louisiana
Pascagoula Naval Station, Mississippi
Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, New Hampshire
Saratoga Springs Naval Support Unit, New York
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Marine base closures and realignments include:

Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, Georgia
Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, California (realignment)
Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, California
Marine Corps Mountain Warfare School, California
Marine Reserve Support Unit, Kansas City
Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego, California (realign or close)
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Seapuppy
05-13-2005, 01:40 PM
not sure I agree with the closing of military bases.....it seems we actually might need them for some reason......heck...wanna close some bases...close the ones overseas in europe!! :argh arr

Lazy Flamingo
05-13-2005, 03:02 PM
Military Facilities By State
Defense Dept. Recommended / Closure

Alabama:
Abbott U.S. Army Reserve Center, Tuskegee
Anderson U.S. Army Reserve Center, Troy
Armed Forces Reserve Center, Mobile
BG William P. Screws U.S. Army Reserve Center, Montgomery
Fort Ganey Army National Guard Reserve Center, Mobile
Fort Hanna Army National Guard Reserve Center, Birmingham
Gary U.S. Army Reserve Center, Enterprise
Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Montgomery
Navy Reserve Center, Tuscaloosa
The Adjutant General Building, AL Army National Guard, Montgomery
Wright U.S. Army Reserve Center

Alaska:
Kulis Air Guard Station

Arizona:
Air Force Research Lab, Mesa
Allen Hall Armed Forces Reserve Center, Tucson

Arkansas:
El Dorado Armed Forces Reserve Center
Stone U.S. Army Reserve Center, Pine Bluff

California:
Armed Forces Reserve Center Bell
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Oakland
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, San Bernardino
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, San Diego
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Seaside
Naval Support Activity Corona
Naval Weapons Station Seal Beach, Detachment Concord
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Encino
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Los Angeles
Onizuka Air Force Station
Riverbank Army Ammunition Plant

Connecticut:
Sgt. Libby U.S. Army Reserve Center, New Haven
Submarine Base New London
Turner U.S. Army Reserve Center, Fairfield
U.S. Army Reserve Center Maintenance Support Facility, Middletown

Delaware:
Kirkwood U.S. Army Reserve Center, Newark

Florida:
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Orlando
Navy Reserve Center, St. Petersburg

Georgia:
Fort Gillem
Fort McPherson
Inspector/Instructor, Rome
Naval Air Station Atlanta
Naval Supply Corps School, Athens
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Columbus

Hawaii:
Army Reserve Center, Hilo

Idaho:
Navy Reserve Center, Pocatello

Illinois:
Armed Forces Reserve Center, Carbondale
Navy Reserve Center, Forest Park

Indiana:
Navy Marine Corps Reserve Center, Grissom Air Reserve Base, Bunker Hill
Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Indianapolis
Navy Reserve Center, Evansville
Newport Chemical Depot
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Lafayette
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Seston

Iowa:
Navy Reserve Center, Cedar Rapids
Navy Reserve Center, Sioux City
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Dubuque

Kansas:
Kansas Army Ammunition Plant

Kentucky:
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Paducah
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Lexington
Navy Reserve Center, Lexington
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Louisville
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Maysville

Louisiana:
Baton Rouge Army National Guard Reserve Center
Naval Support Activity, New Orleans
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Baton Rouge
Roberts U.S. Army Reserve Center, Baton Rouge

Maine:
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Limestone
Naval Reserve Center, Bangor
Naval Shipyard Portsmouth, Kittery

Maryland:
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Patuxent River
Navy Reserve Center, Adelphi
Pfc. Flair U.S. Army Reserve Center, Frederick

Massachusetts:
Malony U.S. Army Reserve Center
Otis Air Guard Base
Westover U.S. Army Reserve Center, Citopee

Michigan:
Navy Reserve Center Marquette
Parisian U.S. Army Reserve Center, Lansing
Selfridge Army Activity
W.K. Kellogg Airport Air Guard Station

Minnesota:
Navy Reserve Center Duluth
Mississippi:
Mississippi Army Ammunition Plant
Naval Station, Pascagoula
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Vicksburg

Missouri:
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Jefferson Barracks
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Kansas City
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, St. Louis
Marine Corps Support Center, Kansas City
Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Kansas City
Navy Reserve Center, Cape Girardeau

Montana:
Galt Hall U.S. Army Reserve Center, Great Falls

Nebraska:
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Columbus
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Grand Island
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Kearny
Naval Recruiting District Headquarters, Omaha
Navy Reserve Center, Lincoln

Nevada:
Hawthorne Army Depot

New Hampshire:
Doble U.S. Army Reserve Center, Portsmouth

New Jersey:
Fort Monmouth
Inspector/Instructor Center, West Trenton
Kilmer U.S. Army Reserve Center, Edison
SFC Nelson V. Brittin U.S. Army Reserve Center

New Mexico:
Cannon Air Force Base
Jenkins Armed Forces Reserve Center, Albuquerque

New York:
Armed Forces Reserve Center, Amityville
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Niagara Falls
Carpenter U.S. Army Reserve Center, Poughkeepsie
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Rome
Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Buffalo
Navy Reserve Center Glenn Falls
Navy Reserve Center Horsehead
Navy Reserve Center Watertown
Niagara Falls International Airport Air Guard Station

North Carolina:
Navy Reserve Center, Asheville
Niven U.S. Army Reserve Center, Albemarle

Ohio:
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Mansfield
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Westerville
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Dayton
Mansfield Lahm Municipal Airport Air Guard Station
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Akron
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Cleveland
Parrott U.S. Army Reserve Center, Kenton
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Whitehall

Oklahoma:
Armed Forces Reserve Center Broken Arrow
Armed Forces Reserve Center Muskogee
Army National Guard Reserve Center Tishomingo
Krowse U.S. Army Reserve Center, Oklahoma City
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Tulsa
Oklahoma City (95th)

Oregon:
Navy Reserve Center Central Point
Umatilla Army Depot

Pennsylvania:
Bristol
Engineering Field Activity Northeast
Kelly Support Center
Naval Air Station Willow Grove
Navy Crane Center Lester
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Reading
North Penn U.S. Army Reserve Center, Norristown
Pittsburgh International Airport Air Reserve Station
Serrenti U.S. Army Reserve Center, Scranton
U.S. Army Reserve Center Bloomsburg
U.S. Army Reserve Center Lewisburg
U.S. Army Reserve Center Williamsport
W. Reese U.S. Army Reserve Center/OMS, Chester

Puerto Rico:
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Humacao
Lavergne U.S. Army Reserve Center, Bayamon

Rhode Island:
Harwood U.S. Army Reserve Center, Providence
USARC Bristol

South Carolina:
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Charleston
South Naval Facilities Engineering Command

South Dakota:
Ellsworth Air Force Base

Tennessee:
U.S. Army Reserve Area Maintenance Support Facility, Kingsport

Texas:
Army National Guard Reserve Center No. 2, Dallas
Army National Guard Reserve Center (Hondo Pass), El Paso
Army National Guard Reserve Center, California Crossing
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Ellington
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Lufkin
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Marshall
Army National Guard Reserve Center, New Braunfels
Brooks City Base
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, San Antonio
Lone Star Army Ammunition Plant
Naval Station, Ingleside
Navy Reserve Center, Lubbock
Navy Reserve Center, Orange
Red River Army Depot
U.S. Army Reserve Center No. 2, Houston

Utah:
Deseret Chemical Depot

Virginia:
Fort Monroe

Washington:
1LT Richard H. Walker U.S. Army Reserve Center
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Everett
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Tacoma
U.S. Army Reserve Center, Fort Lawton
Vancouver Barracks

West Virginia:
Bias U.S. Army Reserve Center, Huntington
Fairmont U.S. Army Reserve Center
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Moundsville

Wisconsin:
Gen. Mitchell International Airport ARS
Navy Reserve Center, La Crosse
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Madison
Olson U.S. Army Reserve Center, Madison
U.S. Army Reserve Center, O'Connell

Wyoming:
Army Aviation Support Facility, Cheyenne
Army National Guard Reserve Center, Thermopolis

Lazy Flamingo
05-13-2005, 03:18 PM
Military Facilities By State
Defense Dept. Recommended / Gains

Alabama:
Anniston Army Depot
Dannelly Field Air Guard Station
Fort Rucker
Redstone Arsenal

Arizona:
Marine Corps Air Station, Yuma
Phoenix Sky Harbor I

Arkansas:
Little Rock Air Force Base

California:
Air Force Reserve Center Moffett Field
Channel Islands Air Guard Station
Edwards Air Force Base
Fort Hunter Liggett
Fresno Air Terminal
Marine Corps Base Miramar
Marine Corps Reserve Center, Pasadena
Naval Air Station Lemore
Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake
Naval Base Point Loma
Naval Station San Diego
Vandenburg Air Force Base

Colorado:
Buckley Air Force Base
Fort Carson
Peterson Air Force Base
Schriever Air Force Base

Delaware:
Dover Air Force Base

Florida:
Eglin Air Force Base
Homestead Air Reserve Station
Jacksonville International Airport Air Guard Station
MacDill Air Force Base
Naval Air Station, Jacksonville
Naval Station, Mayport

Georgia:
Dobbins Air Reserve Base
Fort Benning
Marine Corps Logistics Base, Albany
Moody Air Force Base
Robins Air Force Base
Savannah International Airport Air Guard Station
Submarine Base Kings Bay

Hawaii:
Naval Station Pearl Harbor

Illinois:
Greater Peoria Regional
Scott Air Force Base

Indiana:
Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Indianapolis
Fort Wayne International Airport Air Guard Station

Iowa:
Des Moines International Airport Air Guard Station
Sioux Gateway Airport Air Guard

Kansas:
Forbes Field Air Guard Station
Fort Leavenworth
Fort Riley
McConnell Air Force Base

Kentucky:
Louisville International Airport Air Guard Station

Louisiana:
Barksdale Air Force Base
Naval Air Station New Orleans

Maine:
Bangor International Airport Air Guard Station

Maryland:
Aberdeen Proving Ground
Andrews Air Force Base
Fort Detrick
Fort Meade
National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda
Naval Air Station Patuxent River
Naval Surface Weapons Station, Carderock

Massachusetts:
Barnes Municipal Airport Air Guard Station
Hanscom Air Force Base
Westover Air Force Base

Michigan:
Detroit Arsenal
Selfridge Air National Guard Base

Mississippi:
Columbus Air Force Base
Jackson International Airport Air Guard Station

Missouri:
Rosecrans Memorial Airport Air Guard Station
Whiteman Air Force Base

Nevada:
Nellis Air Force Base

New Hampshire:
Armed Forces Reserve Center Pease Air Force Base

New Jersey:
Atlantic City International Airport Air Guard Station
Fort Dix
McGuire Air Force Base
Picatinny Arsenal

New Mexico:
Kirtland Air Force Base

New York:
United States Military Academy

North Carolina:
Charlotte/Douglas International Airport
Fort Bragg
Seymour Johnson Air Force Base

Ohio:
Armed Forces Reserve Center, Akron
Defense Supply Center, Columbus
Rickenbacker International Airport Air Guard Station
Toledo Express Airport Air Guard Station
Wright Patterson Air Force Base
Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport

Oklahoma:
Fort Sill
Tinker Air Force Base
Tulsa International Airport Air Guard Station
Vance Air Force Base

Pennsylvania:
Letterkenny Army Depot
Naval Support Activity, Philadelphia
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Lehigh
Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Pittsburgh
Tobyhanna Army Depot

Rhode Island:
Naval Station, Newport
Quonset State Airport Air Guard Station

South Carolina:
Fort Jackson
Marine Corps Air Station, Beaufort
McEntire Air Guard Station
Shaw Air Force Base

South Dakota:
Joe Foss Field Air Guard Station

Tennessee:
McGee Tyson Airport Air Guard Station
Memphis International Airport Air Guard Station
Naval Support Activity Mid-South

Texas:
Dyess Air Force Base
Fort Bliss
Fort Sam Houston
Laughlin Air Force Base
Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base, Fort Worth
Randolph Air Force Base

Vermont:
Burlington International Airport Air Guard Station

Virginia:
Defense Supply Center, Richmond
Fort Belvoir
Fort Lee
Headquarters Battalion, Headquarters Marine Corps, Henderson Hall
Langley Air Force Base
Marine Corps Base, Quantico
Naval Amphibious Base, Little Creek
Naval Shipyard, Norfolk
Naval Station, Norfolk
Naval Support Activity, Norfolk

Washington:
Fort Lewis
Human Resources Support Center Northwest
Naval Air Station, Whidbey Island
Naval Station, Bremerton

West Virginia:
Ewvra Sheppard Air Guard Station

Wisconsin:
Dane County Airport

Wyoming:
Cheyenne Airport Air Guard Station

05-13-2005, 04:31 PM
Those lists you have are the original BRAC review lists Al. The one I posted is rumoured to be the final cut.

We'll see I guess.

Go Aweigh2452
05-13-2005, 04:38 PM
Actual list as of this AM:
http://www.kirotv.com/news/4485418/detail.html

I'm a bit surprised that they are closing New London... The others on the list are no surprise... (Navy anyway...)

Lazy Flamingo
05-13-2005, 05:52 PM
Base Closings Timeline

May 16, 2005: Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard B. Myers,
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testify before the nine-member base closing
commission.

May through August: The commission will hold public hearings, conduct site visits,
and collect data on each facility on the Pentagon's list to determine whether the
Defense Department proposal was justified.
The commission can vote to add facilities to the list, but it takes seven of the nine
members to do so. A simple majority vote would suffice to remove bases from the
closure list.

Sept. 8, 2005: The commission must forward its report of recommendations to
the President.

Sept. 23, 2005: The President must accept or reject the recommendations in
their entirety. If they are accepted, Congress has 45 legislative days or until the
end of its 2005 session to reject the recommendations in their entirety or they
become final.

If they are disapproved, the commission has until Oct. 20, 2005, to submit
a revised report to the President. The President has until Nov. 20, 2005,
to approve a revised report and send it to Congress.

The Pentagon then has six years to close, relocate or downsize bases on
the final list.

05-13-2005, 05:53 PM
Yeah... that's a much nicer list than the one forwarded to me. Mostly reserve centers as the focus I think. They'll be realigned into already existing base and facilities and all will be well.

Roel Jansen
05-13-2005, 11:48 PM
Dear, Seapuppy,

FYI They already closed a lot of militairy camps over here in Europe!

Just curious have you ever been in Europe?

05-14-2005, 06:25 AM
We just opened a few new ones in the Middle East... :D

I hear the Air Force has plans for a fantastic Par 3 at Kandahar... :)

The Tikrit Open has been postponed, but the Kabul Invitational is still on though.

Lazy Flamingo
05-14-2005, 03:54 PM
Iran is headed to become a "Multinational Parking Lot" for the
all new "Multinational Military PX - BX" on it's property .... :shock:

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