Some positive Projects started.....

[Nehalennia]

So now that I have the boat back from the shop and the overheating repairs are behind us, I started three projects today. I began to buff the boat. I spent about 3 hours compounding and pleased to report that it seems to be removing the oxidation. I really didn't do the whole boat because I'm not prepared to do all the steps to make the stages most effective. Anyway no pictures, but it was good.

Second project started
I will hopefully get finished tomorrow. It's the aft settee table mount base on the engine hatch. The original screws were stripped out and it didn't seem to be straight forward to repair.
Top View
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-086.jpg

My friend is a machinist and I asked him to make me an aluminum ring that I will drill and tap for some 10-24 stainless screws and sandwich the engine hatch with the ring.
Underneath view
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-089.jpg

Base and ring
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-082.jpg

Third Project started
My third project is the 4 vent Hydronic heater from Heatercraft.
I needed to install the main body in the compartment in the mid-berth behind the panel on the starboard side.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-083.jpg
I removed the panels pretty much all around the area.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-084.jpg
Since I need to clean the Helm's drink holder/junk collection panel on the cockpit starboard gunnel, I removed it to provide light down below.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-085.jpg

I then mounted the heater closer to the aft bulkhead because I want to get as much room as possible for the heater vent hose to bend and be routed wherever(it's very close the panel to be replaced).
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-081.jpg
Top view through cup holder/helm catch all~O~rific.
You can see where the brackets are that the panel attaches to and how little clearance the vent hoses have. It'll be fine but it's tight.
I was also considering leaving enough room in this same otherwise deadspace for an inverter.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-0810.jpg

The pass through hole from the engine compartment
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/BoatProjects2-16-08.jpg
All the fluid hoses are run, I just need to get the vent hoses installed and wire a Mini-puppy pump(mounted in the engine compartment) in line with the control switch so that the pump comes on when the heater is called for.
So, tomorrow some more to do, but I got a good start.....

[Nehalennia]

Today,
I finished the engine hatch table stand.
Here's the Ring under the hatch.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Enginehatchtablestand-Complete2-17-.jpg
It worked exactly how and wanted.

Here's the topside.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Enginehatchtablestand-Complete2--1.jpg

[dumluck53]

Nice work, Todd! You're givin' Doug a run for his money!

[SomeSailor]

Bob and I were sitting watching Doug polish his boat this morning at Poulsbo, and laughed that he should be called "Gizmo" or "Inspector Gadget" or something. :)

That's the problem when you buy a boat with all those toys already installed... he's now scratching his head wondering where to put the next toy. :)

[Nehalennia]

Nice work, Todd! You're givin' Doug a run for his money!
Thanks Tony
I haven't seen Doug and Lea's new one yet, so I'm not sure what I'm up against...

Bob and I were sitting watching Doug polish his boat this morning at Poulsbo, and laughed that he should be called "Gizmo" or "Inspector Gadget" or something. :)

That's the problem when you buy a boat with all those toys already installed... he's now scratching his head wondering where to put the next toy. :)

See, he's way ahead of me if he's just wiping wax on in the mornings........

[oh_wells]

Well, you are way ahead of us. We bought our boat last March and we're still catching up on deferred maintenance. We got a good deal but we have a lot of work to do.

Looks great.

[Nehalennia]

Well, you are way ahead of us. We bought our boat last March and we're still catching up on deferred maintenance. We got a good deal but we have a lot of work to do.

Looks great.

I'd just like to get as much stuff fixed up that I know about, before the things that I don't know about creep up on me.
The Hatch ring was glaring, and I can see trying to use it before it was stable and really cracking, chipping or damaging the hatch hole when it was a very easy fix. Thanks to Greg my friend, that ring he made me was perfect.

[oh_wells]

First for us was redoing the exhaust manifolds. Next up is bottom paint, which we need to do pretty fast. We probably would have gotten around to doing more earlier but our second daughter was born a couple months after buying the boat. Obviously we didn't think our time line through very well :lol:

The ring is great.


I'd just like to get as much stuff fixed up that I know about, before the things that I don't know about creep up on me.
The Hatch ring was glaring, and I can see trying to use it before it was stable and really cracking, chipping or damaging the hatch hole when it was a very easy fix. Thanks to Greg my friend, that ring he made me was perfect.

[Nehalennia]

First for us was redoing the exhaust manifolds. Next up is bottom paint, which we need to do pretty fast. We probably would have gotten around to doing more earlier but our second daughter was born a couple months after buying the boat. Obviously we didn't think our time line through very well :lol:

The ring is great.
I know the list never ends, but what else do you have to do?

[Go Aweigh2452]

Bob and I were sitting watching Doug polish his boat this morning at Poulsbo, and laughed that he should be called "Gizmo" or "Inspector Gadget" or something. :)

That's the problem when you buy a boat with all those toys already installed... he's now scratching his head wondering where to put the next toy. :)


Hey, not all the "toys" came with the boat... But I am scratching my head as to the next project...

I did upload my MMSI number in my radio so I am ahead of the game. Lea and I headed to Bell Harbor after you left... (had a great time by the way)...

We spent the night at Bell and hit my favorite pizza place in Seattle (Bell Pizza) on 1st and Wall St. Stuffed ourselves silly and slept in a little too late and was a bit late to an appointment this morning... All good now however, the boat is all tucked in, nice and clean. Will install a 12v power plug at the helm later this week. I did pull the wires behind the dash for one side. Just have to drill and install it now... Have another side to do later (Admirals side)... I also verified my frig will fit next to the port side seat and I think it will plumb and power pretty easily...

Still looking at all options for the davits to lift the dink... Mike (Somesalior) had a good one that I will be checking out as well. Hope to have that done before Friday Harbor this July 4th weekend cruise...

[Nehalennia]

.....I did upload my MMSI number in my radio so I am ahead of the game.....

I haven't played with my radio yet or know enough about this yet to know if it will take a MMSI. I haven't read up on it enough to know what it is.
Ok, what about DSC? I believe this is the signal that allows the GPS to send the distress signal to all nearby Radio's equipped.

I do know that while the mid-cabin panels are down, I thought today that I will buy and run the transducer for the GPS and maybe a smurf tube w/pull-string(for future use) before it all get's buttoned up.

[SomeSailor]

I haven't played with my radio yet or know enough about this yet to know if it will take a MMSI. I haven't read up on it enough to know what it is.
Ok, what about DSC? I believe this is the signal that allows the GPS to send the distress signal to all nearby Radio's equipped.


MMSI is your Maritime Mobile service Identity. It's a number that identifies your boat if you have a DSC-capable (Digital Selective Calling) radio.

You don't have to have a GPS to use either, nor do you have to be in an emergency. DSC also allows you to selectively call other boats that have the capability. Handy if you're running with freinds that have DSC radios. The new ones have some pretty cool features. I have a DSC VHF on my boat, but need to find out how to get to the menu to set or change the MMSI number. :)

[Go Aweigh2452]

I do know that while the mid-cabin panels are down, I thought today that I will buy and run the transducer for the GPS and maybe a smurf tube w/pull-string(for future use) before it all get's buttoned up.Great idea. I ran/am running wire line all over the boat. That is how I managed to get my 12v power plug wire run so fast today. I also have a set of spare wires I ran to the upper helm (overhead) for an eventual smartcraft display unit when I was tracking the radar wiring. Not sure how many wires I will need (read somewhere I needed two) but ran four color coded up along the back side of the stbd window and ran them to the upper helm overhead a couple of months ago. Now all I need is the spendy display unit to hook up... and if I can't use them or need additional end plugs, I have a runner set up too.

I read up on my DSC unit and was surprised I only had one shot to get the number right. After that, I have to send it the to factory to reset... how stupid is that? Anyway, if your unit is DSC, or the other San Juan group have those set up, we need to share the MMSI's. If it is hooked to GPS, we can "see" the other boats on our displays... How cool is that?

[Nehalennia]

.... Anyway, if your unit is DSC, or the other San Juan group have those set up, we need to share the MMSI's. If it is hooked to GPS, we can "see" the other boats on our displays... How cool is that?

That it what I didn't know. That is cool. I simply haven't read up on that.

[Nehalennia]

UPDATE:
I brought the boat home tonight and continue the heater install. I decided to go forward full steam and install the Heater vents
Cabin Vent under the Stair Before
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-081.jpg
Cabin Vent under the Stair After
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-085.jpg
Mid-Berth After
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-08.jpg
Helm Before
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-086.jpg
Helm After
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-087.jpg
Admiral's Extendo Vent~O~Rama -"Hot Tube" Helm Before
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-088.jpg
Admiral's Extendo Vent~O~Rama -"Hot Tube" Helm After
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-0813.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Cuttingintheheatervents2-19-0814.jpg

[Go Aweigh2452]

Nice workmanship. I still don't see the need for the "extend o rama" heat vent unless it was much easier to install than running the vent tubing under the deck to the port side? I have the same "extend o rama" install in the cabin but did not see the need to use it as an extension to point around the cabin. Hence the upside down cup holder minimizing the heat in the cabin when the Admiral wants heat at the cockpit (I have it branched from the cabin vent to the admiral vent). Are you going to cover the opening with anything or leave it "full on" pointing in the port side direction?

Did you get the three speed fan control?

Except for some under deck routing, the heat venting is pretty simple and actual fun to do. I could not double clamp the heater hose on the engine but I'm not too worried about that connection. I do check it once in a while... paranoid I suppose... I was thinking of putting in a shut off valve but have not done so... are you?

[Nehalennia]

Nice workmanship. I still don't see the need for the "extend o rama" heat vent unless it was much easier to install than running the vent tubing under the deck to the port side? I have the same "extend o rama" install in the cabin but did not see the need to use it as an extension to point around the cabin. Hence the upside down cup holder minimizing the heat in the cabin when the Admiral wants heat at the cockpit (I have it branched from the cabin vent to the admiral vent). Are you going to cover the opening with anything or leave it "full on" pointing in the port side direction?

Did you get the three speed fan control?

Except for some under deck routing, the heat venting is pretty simple and actual fun to do. I could not double clamp the heater hose on the engine but I'm not too worried about that connection. I do check it once in a while... paranoid I suppose... I was thinking of putting in a shut off valve but have not done so... are you?

Thanks Doug,
My friend has the Hot tube in his ski boat, and it was something Mighty Mo (Admiral) fell in love with. So, I thought I'd get it and it mounted pretty good there at the port base of the helm. She can pull it out and stick it under a blanket or in the bottom of a sleeping bag while underway.

I do have the 3 speed fan control and I have the in-line Mini-Puppy aux. pump. I'm trying to figure out the logic to wire that so the pump comes on when the fan does. I think I have that figured out, I just need to grab some leftover 14-2 wire from work.
I haven't thought about a shut off valve.
How would you install that because you still want it to return to the engine...? Maybe a couple T's? so you could divert it.

[Go Aweigh2452]

I haven't thought about a shut off valve.
How would you install that because you still want it to return to the engine...? Maybe a couple T's? so you could divert it.

I'm still thinking that one through. My thought was to be able to disable the heater hose in case of hose failure. Maybe I'm just too anal on this one... I thought maybe a shut off valve on the engine at the outlet and inlet (for the return line). I probably just need a ... http://yellowj.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/kick-butt.gif

[Nehalennia]

Right now the way mine is set up the hose is split at the pump. I haven't hooked that part up yet and it's currently connected back through the HW heater with a butt connector. In the event of a hose leak, I could disconnect the HeaterCraft and reconnect the way it is now with that butt connector(keep it onboard).

[jturbo]

I'll put in my two cents on the "extedo-rama" heater hose. When it is raining outside our cabin on our 288. The condensation tends to build up and fog up our windows. The heater hose happens to be mounted to the driving helm and comes in really handy to clear up those windows as a de-fogger! I'm not sure what I'd do without it, other then a rag! Go, Go! Extendo heater hose-o!

[Nehalennia]

I'll put in my two cents on the "extedo-rama" heater hose. When it is raining outside our cabin on our 288. The condensation tends to build up and fog up our windows. The heater hose happens to be mounted to the driving helm and comes in really handy to clear up those windows as a de-fogger! I'm not sure what I'd do without it, other then a rag! Go, Go! Extendo heater hose-o!
Yeah, that's a good point also. I did think of that as well. Ultimately I would have liked to put a Euro vent on the dash, but I'm not removing the helm or windshield to drill that/those holes, so the Superific~Extendo~Rama HeatBlast "Hot-Tube" will do the trick.

[Go Aweigh2452]

Well, had a little project I tackled today after I got home. Seems the holding tank indicator got stuck on "full". I know it was not full because in addition to seeing the level in the tank, I have a separate tank monitor installed as a back up light indicator that only goes on when the tank is REALLY full... That light was off... (the main tank watch indicator reads the actual level of my water and holding tank)...

Anyway, unscrewed and pulled and cleaned the tube and reinstalled... all better...

[Nehalennia]

Well, had a little project I tackled today after I got home. Seems the holding tank indicator got stuck on "full". I know it was not full because in addition to seeing the level in the tank, I have a separate tank monitor installed as a back up light indicator that only goes on when the tank is REALLY full... That light was off... (the main tank watch indicator reads the actual level of my water and holding tank)...

Anyway, unscrewed and pulled and cleaned the tube and reinstalled... all better...

Garden hose? What did you do to clean it?.
Once the heater is installed, that's my next project is to learn how the head works?

[Go Aweigh2452]

What did you do to clean it?.

I took the sending tube in the house to the deep sink in the laundry room and ran a small brush through it. Inside is about the diameter of a nickel and on one side is a single solid thin bare metal rod and the other is a white plastic covered wire that loops at the bottom and ends at the top of the sender. No moving parts but there was some debris that apparently caused the white loop to fool the sender into thinking it was full...

Real easy to clean as long as you hold your breath... :eek:

[Nehalennia]

Gotcha.
That'll be my next system to figure out. ...but..

I can't wait for this weekend and get this heater project wrapped up, I need a stress free boat ride.

[Go Aweigh2452]

I need a stress free boat ride.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Well, if it turns out not stress free, I'm sure we can find you a nice Bayliner... :eek:

[Sundancer]

For those crappy "head" jobs, a little Vick's Vaporub does wonders for hiding the smell. It's also clears out your sinuses! I replaced all my hoses a few years ago and it really helped!

[SomeSailor]

Real easy to clean as long as you hold your breath... :eek:

Or perhaps a Snake River system that reads from the OUTSIDE of the tank? :)

[Nehalennia]

Well, if it turns out not stress free, I'm sure we can find you a nice Bayliner... :eek:
...wiseguy :argh2

[Nehalennia]

So far this morning.....:
I've taken the the old WN's off
Yesterday I bought the Garmin transom mounted Transducer and I'm now reading and researching installation, so I do it right.
I wanted to run it's cable before I finish the Heater and button up the mid-berth panels.......

[Nehalennia]

In continuing to get Nehalennia ready and complete the Heater installation, I wanted to get the transom mounted transducer mounted before all the panels are buttoned up.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-086.jpg
Inside transom before
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-082.jpg
I used a Forstner bit for the through hull next to the Starboard Trim tab. I verified inside the engine compartment that this area was clear from any obstructions.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-0811.jpg

[Nehalennia]

This bit gives a very clean cut and unlike a hole-saw won’t grind the edges of the hole potentially separated the fiberglass layers. This way I know once I filled it with 5200 it would be well sealed.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-087.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-088.jpg
I cleaned up this extra 5200, and put a piece of blue tape over it to hold the rest of it in. I should have put the tape there before I filled it.
Inside Transom after
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-08.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/GPStransducerinstall2-23-0813.jpg

I’ll let the 5200 dry for a little bit, have some lunch and go run the cable to the dash and zip tie it all back.

[Nehalennia]

Here’s a picture of the heater hose that was previously spliced so that I can add the Heater kit. You can see the splice at the bottom of the picture. When the dealer installed my FWC they knew I would be adding this heater kit so they generously pre-ran the heater hose for me. The provided that splice to make my job much easier. Before I did this it was running out of the engine to the hot water tank and back to the engine.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Wireruns2-23-083.jpg

I disconnected it and attached one end of the hose (engine side) to the Pump, the other end I drained and ran to the heater. It’s the return which now will run through the hot water tank.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Wireruns2-23-085.jpg
From the other side of the pump runs to heater The other side of that line runs back through the hot-water tank. Pretty slick!
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Wireruns2-23-084.jpg

[Nehalennia]

So, also while I was running the heater hose and wiring the transducer, I wired the pump
Heat shrinking the wires
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Wireruns2-23-088.jpg

Tie wrapped everything up nice and snug.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Wireruns2-23-089.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Wireruns2-23-08.jpg

so now all I need to do is wire the heater switch so that the pump kicks on when the heater does, finish connecting the heater vent hose, fill the FWC back up with coolant, test then button it all back up.
The transducer is now run to the helm so that it's ready for a GPS.

[Go Aweigh2452]

Lookin good Todd, lookin real good...:argh2

So she wet yet?

[SomeSailor]

I'm not getting the need for the pump though? If it's in the same loop as your heater wouldn't it work the same without a secondary pump?

[Nehalennia]

I'm not getting the need for the pump though? If it's in the same loop as your heater wouldn't it work the same without a secondary pump?

Yes, it does SeaRay told me they install them because when idling your circulation is slower and the heater will not kick out as much heat.
I also looked at HeaterCraft.com (http://www.heatercraft.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=H415) and they mentioned:


Heater in-line circulation kit is recommended when installation of hydronic heater fan unit is located over one foot above level of engine and/or any single run of heater hose longer than 25'. Also recommended if engine is operated at low RPM for extended periods, as in the case of trolling.


Since mine is located in the void starboard of the mid-berth the hoses go over the bulkhead and then return. It seemed like a logic add-on.

BTW< Doug,
I picked up a few of those "RV" Hose Clamps you used, yesterday afternoon to see if there going to work holding the vent tube to the heater registers good.

[SomeSailor]

That makes sense. I guess you could also scavenge heat from the motor once it's shut down.

Hey... here's a thought. Running the heater pierside, with the water heater on AC... you could run the pump and pre-heat the motor?

[Nehalennia]

That makes sense. I guess you could also scavenge heat from the motor once it's shut down.

Hey... here's a thought. Running the heater pierside, with the water heater on AC... you could run the pump and pre-heat the motor?Yeah good idea. To use it as the heat source though, I think it would strip the HW tank quickly, but a pre-heater is a great idea.

BTW, as I write this I'm in my truck at the storage. I'll wave as I head home, I think you're around here somewhere

[SomeSailor]

yeah... but when you're pierside, your Hot Water Heater is AC powered. You'd have hot water...and therefore heat (from the HW heat exchanger).

You could put in a by-pass that would allow you to circ the hot coolant through the HW heater and heater, without cooling it through the motor.

Whole range of possibilities. Your hot water makes TONS of HOT water that's just sitting there most times and the AC is free. :)

[Nehalennia]

That's not a bad idea either. I'll have to think about how the Valves I would need to add would work, but some by-pass arrangement may be good.

I also was going to wire the pump inline with the switch, but now I will wire it so I can turn the pump on independently….so I’m off to Harbor Marine….to buy a switch.

[SomeSailor]

You can do some cool stuff with 12V MAC valves (Grainger Tool).

[Nehalennia]

ooooh, you reminded me I need to get a 12VDC outlet to install on that MidBerth panel too, for the kids DVD player.
I'll have to check out the valves you're talking about.

[SomeSailor]

yeah... they're electromagnetic valves ($40 or so each) that you can use to switch air or non-flam fluids. Really cool for bypassing stuff or turning on air, etc.

[Nehalennia]

i'll have to look into those.

[Nehalennia]

Ok Progress report:

I got the HeaterCraft switch installed this morning
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/HeaterandPumpSwitchinstall2-24-081.jpg

and wanted to also install a separate switch to run the aux pump.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/HeaterandPumpSwitchinstall2-24-082.jpg

I had limited space with the jigsaw, so I had a chatter moment (when the blade catches and popped out), so I have a couple of blade dings in the dash. :eek:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/HeaterandPumpSwitchinstall2-24-08.jpg

Overall it turned out good. I'll get over the dings. All tested (pump came on and the heater fan worked in the 3 speeds) and I'm ready to re-fill the system and test for leaks, connect the vent hoses and button it back up.

I'll bring it home one night this week and finish her off.

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and I'm excited to get out there.
The GPS install should be a cinch, with the transducer already installed.

[Go Aweigh2452]

Great minds think alike... I too put my 12 v outlet next to my heater control today...

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/heater/DSC09667.JPG

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/heater/DSC09668.JPG

BTW, I did not install a separate pump for my heatercraft system. Just ran it off the engine and through the hot water tank like you. I'll check it out when trolling off the main sometime but have not noticed too little heat so far... Besides, I'm running out of room for wires behind the dash and goodies under the deck. Good thing they are all numbered and labeled... But I think I may have a spare electric circulating motor that was to be used on the old Go Aweigh for a saltwater washdown... hmmmmmm...

[Nehalennia]

Great minds think alike... I too put my 12 v outlet next to my heater control today...

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/heater/DSC09667.JPG

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/heater/DSC09668.JPG

BTW, I did not install a separate pump for my heatercraft system. Just ran it off the engine and through the hot water tank like you. I'll check it out when trolling off the main sometime but have not noticed too little heat so far... Besides, I'm running out of room for wires behind the dash and goodies under the deck. Good thing they are all numbered and labeled... But I think I may have a spare electric circulating motor that was to be used on the old Go Aweigh for a saltwater washdown... hmmmmmm...

There's always room for 2 more wires
:mrgreen:
Nice install.
The 12V outlet you see on mine was already there. I'll be installing another one in the mid-berth before I button here up

[Go Aweigh2452]

The 12V outlet you see on mine was already there. I'll be installing another one in the mid-berth before I button here up

I was thinking of that myself. I only have one 12v outlet in the cabin and its on the sink side. I was looking at where to place one near the dinette table. I'll think it over this week and come up with something...

[Nehalennia]

I was thinking of that myself. I only have one 12v outlet in the cabin and its on the sink side. I was looking at where to place one near the dinette table. I'll think it over this week and come up with something...

We may be able to run them off of the same circuit, because I can't see running more than two 12V cigarette lighter items at once. Luckily I have a panel that only had one item on it before I used 2 more circuits for the heater and the pump.
Now that you say that, I think I saw a 12V receptacle in the Galley, but now you have me curious.
I'm finding new stuff all the time.
All of that was easily accessible and made a lot easier installation than the gymnastics of zip tying running the pump and transducer wires.

[Nehalennia]

just checked the parts Archives. Yes I do have a 12V receptacle next to the Galley cabinet

[Go Aweigh2452]

just checked the parts Archives. Yes I do have a 12V receptacle next to the Galley cabinet

ahhhh, anything else you want to know about your boat? hee hee... :argh2

I will stay with a separate run for the 12v. And because it is about a 6 to 8 ft run, I'll also upgrade the wiring for the new 12v plug. My problem is the run through the cockpit bulkhead. Not sure where I can drill and not show wires and still have access to the inline fuse. Still working/thinking on that...

[Nehalennia]

ahhhh, anything else you want to know about your boat? hee hee... :argh2

I will stay with a separate run for the 12v. And because it is about a 6 to 8 ft run, I'll also upgrade the wiring for the new 12v plug. My problem is the run through the cockpit bulkhead. Not sure where I can drill and not show wires and still have access to the inline fuse. Still working/thinking on that...

Don't you have a fuse block that you can start from rather than an inline fuse?

[Go Aweigh2452]

Don't you have a fuse block that you can start from rather than an inline fuse?

All my accessory fuses on the dash are used... Not sure I want to double/triple up on the 12v accessory fuse on the dash now. My connection is currently off a fuse block behind the 13 screw dash panel that is controlled off the MBSS bus now. So I can only use the 12v when that is in 1, 2 or both (I have the BlueSea set up to pull power when bateries go below 11.5v) therefore can suck juice off #1 too.

having an inline fuse allows me to possibly double/triple up on the dash fuse with reset...

[pkrogh]

Sounds to me like you need to run another feed wire from the battery and install another fuse block.

If you keep adding new toys at the rate you're going now you'll need a couple more fuse blocks and some floatation pontoons!!

:mrgreen: :argh2

Pete

[Nehalennia]

All my accessory fuses on the dash are used... Not sure I want to double/triple up on the 12v accessory fuse on the dash now. My connection is currently off a fuse block behind the 13 screw dash panel that is controlled off the MBSS bus now. So I can only use the 12v when that is in 1, 2 or both (I have the BlueSea set up to pull power when bateries go below 11.5v) therefore can suck juice off #1 too.

having an inline fuse allows me to possibly double/triple up on the dash fuse with reset...
I'm with you.
I don't know if you can see the redline on this picture,
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/2452FloorPlanWireRun-1.jpg
but can you get to that port side passage behind your head?
I have a long bit and tons of 14-2 Cable if you need any.(I had a spare spool from work)

[Go Aweigh2452]

Todd, The run you showed is the one I already have installed. Its the dinette side (same side as yours) that needs the 12v power plug socket.

I bought 20 ft of marine grade 12/2 today at Lowes this AM. It was on sale for .14/ft... :eek: I only needed 5 or 6 ft but what the heck... I can always run a couple of spares...


If you keep adding new toys at the rate you're going now you'll need a couple more fuse blocks and some floatation pontoons!!

Yea, running out of room. I have three more hot posts left on my current block but have doubled/tripled the negative side big time...

[Nehalennia]

Todd, The run you showed is the one I already have installed. Its the dinette side (same side as yours) that needs the 12v power plug socket.

I bought 20 ft of marine grade 12/2 today at Lowes this AM. It was on sale for .14/ft... :eek: I only needed 5 or 6 ft but what the heck... I can always run a couple of spares...



Yea, running out of room. I have three more hot posts left on my current block but have doubled/tripled the negative side big time...

Ok, don't buy any more wire. I can get it for nothing. We order rolls for projects and I have plenty of spare spools and/or boxes depending on what it is~ (ours is all plenum as well). I have at least a 100'-150' on the spool I have left over. I think I used 14' over the weekend.

I think it may be a good idea to run that wire to a new fuse block as well. Do you have pics of your Dinnette area? It should be an easy run I would think.

[Go Aweigh2452]

Do you have pics of your Dinnette area?
My dinette and where to place the 12v outlet:
http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/dinette/DSC09687a.jpg

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/dinette/DSC09686a.JPG

The current 12v outlet is behind the DVD display arm. (below the 110v outlet)...
http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/DSC08466.jpg

[Nehalennia]

Do you think you can run the cable under the vinyl covered trim just above the shelf with the cupholders?

[Go Aweigh2452]

Do you think you can run the cable under the vinyl covered trim just above the shelf with the cupholders?

Not without damaging the vinyl.

I will go up from under the seat and into the stbd bump out that holds the table up in all likelihood...


The actual tough part is getting from the back of the dash and dropping the wires under the deck and then into the seat area. My problem is the bulkhead has no access going down on the cabin side without me crawling to the bulkhead from the engine compartment.

I have never opened the access panel that the throttle is on due to not figuring out how to remove it. The marina that I have my engine work done looked at that and also could not figure out how to remove it. If I can figure that out... It'd be much easier... On my old boat I just had to move some vinyl to one side and unscrew it. Not so with the set up... They really did a great job hiding the screws or whatever holds the panel on the stbd side... See photo...

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/boat%20cup/DSC08654.jpg

[Nehalennia]

Uh, yeah, that looks a bit tough.
It's hard to say without seeing your engine compartment.
Have you considered running a nice piece of wood trim with a channel routed out from your helm to the area?

[Go Aweigh2452]

Uh, yeah, that looks a bit tough.
It's hard to say without seeing your engine compartment.
Have you considered running a nice piece of wood trim with a channel routed out from your helm to the area?

No... but... I like a clean look so that won't be an option (I hope)...

The panel probably snaps on but until I figure that is how it is done, I'll not try to pry it off. My old boat had vinyl that could be moved out of the way to uncover screws. This one does not... to be continued...

[Nehalennia]

Well I don't think that panel will come off until the throttle control is loose or unbolted.
How about under your Helm seat. Is there access there that gets you to the starboard gunnel?

[Go Aweigh2452]

How about under your Helm seat. Is there access there that gets you to the starboard gunnel?

Yes, used that before but it is a tough fit. I'll figure it out and get'er done...

thought you were going to call tonight and discuss the last part of the trip?

[Nehalennia]

Yes, used that before but it is a tough fit. I'll figure it out and get'er done...

thought you were going to call tonight and discuss the last part of the trip?

I was curious if you would be online as I wanted to post it as well, so all can see the fine tuning. Sorry about that, I didn't realize you wanted a phone call. I'll call tonight for sure and we can solidify it.

I'll reply on there to your question about the 3rd Desolation day. Yes would be the answer if everyone wants to run up there.

[Go Aweigh2452]

I was curious if you would be online as I wanted to post it as well, so all can see the fine tuning. Sorry about that, I didn't realize you wanted a phone call. I'll call tonight for sure and we can solidify it.

I'll reply on there to your question about the 3rd Desolation day. Yes would be the answer if everyone wants to run up there.

No problem about the expected call. Just thought I read that you would call. Not a big deal, no need to call. The cruise looks great!!! Mo did a fine job... Do you have the total mileage?

I'm in the process of building a check list as a guide for all. (A reminder to remember stuff to bring or do before the trip)...

In the mean time, I'll be working on the boat... adding or fixing something I'm sure... :lol:

[Nehalennia]

Sounds good,
I may Google plan it tonight and see what the new Mileage is.
Luke and I will be working on the boat tonight until around 7 or so, then I'll be online from home. Seeing if I can Google our trip.


BTW<
I got those RV clamps you used, those look slick and will make the heater vent hose attach great and solid.
Thanks for the tip

[Nehalennia]

Update:

Today, I finished the heater installation and decided to add a 12VDC and 120VAC GFIC Outlet to the Starboard panel in the Mid Cabin.
This heater kit is going to really heat it up. All tested and I'm very happy.
Heater vent hose
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Heater-12Vand120Vdone3-1-08.jpg

Heater box zip tied all up
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Heater-12Vand120Vdone3-1-085.jpg

Final panel install with new heater vent and outlets in the mid-berth buttoned up
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/Heater-12Vand120Vdone3-1-088.jpg