EX1000 Honda Generator

[Nehalennia]

A guy I know had an EX1000 Honda Generator........he said he didn't want any more. Anyway he gave it to me and said if I can use it it's mine. Well I haven't got it started but it also doesn't look like teh EU1000 (newer version) at all. It's relatively compact, but I think I need the EU1000 instead.
I may sell this thing on CL and step up for the real deal.

Any thoughts?

[Stompor]

I would just skip the 1000 and get the eu2000. I bet the 1000 will not run your microwave. I had a 1000 when I had my 2855 and it was only good to charge the batteries. JMHO.

[Nehalennia]

I would just skip the 1000 and get the eu2000. I bet the 1000 will not run your microwave. I had a 1000 when I had my 2855 and it was only good to charge the batteries. JMHO.

Hey Scott(got your E-mail on the big Trip~we're getting excited too.)

Anyway, yeah you may be right, for the cost difference the 2000 may be the way to go. I don't think I'll get one before the trip only because we have several other things to purchase ( and with the boat in the shop now getting dialed in + fuel) We're going to play it cool.

I have been looking though.

BTW< Bring your checkbook, I spoke to my Uncle tonight and we have our reservations for the 23rd and 24th at Caldwell(his Island). It's for sale.
You and one other boat(a 42'er) well be the two big boys at the dock and we'll have to maybe raft up a boat to each of you, then the rest us us at the end of the dock and raft up.
I still don't have an accurate head count for the North group, but this will be a blast, Guaranteed.

[Play N Hookie II]

Hey Scott(got your E-mail on the big Trip~we're getting excited too.)

Anyway, yeah you may be right, for the cost difference the 2000 may be the way to go. I don't think I'll get one before the trip only because we have several other things to purchase ( and with the boat in the shop now getting dialed in + fuel) We're going to play it cool.

I have been looking though.

BTW< Bring your checkbook, I spoke to my Uncle tonight and we have our reservations for the 23rd and 24th at Caldwell(his Island). It's for sale.
You and one other boat(a 42'er) well be the two big boys at the dock and we'll have to maybe raft up a boat to each of you, then the rest us us at the end of the dock and raft up.
I still don't have an accurate head count for the North group, but this will be a blast, Guaranteed.

The RV side of Roy Robinson in Marysville seems to have as good if not a better price on the EU 2000 than I have found. Of course CL is the route I am going just being patient.

[SomeSailor]

Check with Wise Sales or Mayberrys online. I got mine at Mayberrys for a much better price than local and since I saved the tax too... the shipping was a bargain.

I think I paid $865 including shipping or something along those lines. GREAT genny though.

[Stompor]

Anyway, yeah you may be right, for the cost difference the 2000 may be the way to go. I don't think I'll get one before the trip only because we have several other things to purchase ( and with the boat in the shop now getting dialed in + fuel) We're going to play it cool.

I have been looking though.

I am bringing mine and you can test it out if you like.

I really do not need an island in Canada, it snows up their. :argh

[Nehalennia]

I am bringing mine and you can test it out if you like.

Cool. Doug says he's bring his too.


I really do not need an island in Canada, it snows up their. :argh

Well when we all are there (and hopefully the weather is really nice as it has been that time of year in past years) we'll have all the clams and oysters we can eat.
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[AGAMIRYU]

Hey Todd, I don't know about the 1000 but the 2000 is absolutely fantastic. It runs all my requirements (battery charger, stove, fridge, tools, etc.) with no problems. It is so quiet that I can sit it on the stern, close the door to the cabin and can't really hear it. I can rest my hand on it and hold a conversation with someone within arms reach and not have to even raise my voice. Power is so stable that you can talk on the VHF with no interference and run a laptop with no fear of fluctuations.
This genny is the best thing since sliced bread and if you absolutely need more power you can actually parallel two of the same model together.
I have had mine run for 4+ hours and the gas was still visible in the neck of the fill port but if you are going to run it overnight I would recommend a fuel tank conversion kit that actually allows you to rig a 5 gal tank to the unit.

Happy Boating-:argh
Chuck

[SomeSailor]

Yeah... we're getting tons of use from ours up here. On the hook, we'll run them just before we shut everything down for the night. Warm showers, fresh batts and life is good. I have a 2400W inverfter installed, so I can get some AC in the evening as well. So far it's worked great.

Really is "sliced bread" :D

[Gunkholes]

Reminds me of riding the anchor a few years ago at Jones Is. This moron with a cruise-a-home pulls-in and anchors, then immediately starts up his *loud* generator on the foredeck that he had installed in an insulated "doghouse". The shelter was open to the bow, so he heard very little noise. While most of us were stern-tied to shore, he wasn't, so as he drifted around on the rode, the spread his delightful sounds all over the bay. Ran the dang thing all day and into the night. His responses to our comments were mostly unprintable. If there is any justice, his navigation skills are hopefully as bad as his manners and he fetched-up on a reef somewhere...!

[SomeSailor]

That's the nice thing about the Hondas. They're amazingly quiet and even a short run will top off your batts and get the hot water back for a shower.

Great gennys.

[Gunkholes]

Agree. We use one of the 1K units during the muzzle-loader elk season to charge batteries. They're amazingly quiet and can't be heard over the sound of the river. The one on the idiot's houseboat, however, was on the opposite end of the noise spectrum -- one of the "cheapos" that they sell like crazy during power outages.

[Gunkholes]

A follow-up....

It never ceases to amaze me of the number of boats that come into a quiet cove, after a run that was long enough to charge all the batteries and heat the water, that still start their generators as soon as they get the hook down. I guess they need them for the TV & air conditioners!

[Randygh]

Vic---I agree about noisey generators. When we were at Sucia last month there was a large Bayliner with an onboard generator. It was so quiet I didn't hear it until I was next to the boat. However, there was another Bay with a portable generator on the swimstep. It was a noisey machine. I couldn't discern its manufacturer, but it was obnoxiously loud. Fortunately, the folks didn't run it very much. A clunky generator kinda takes away the serenity of a quiet anchorage or dock.

I have an old Honda 800 watt and it is very heavy and noisey. I wouldn't consider using it on the boat because it is so loud.

[SomeSailor]

Yeah. The Hondas are super quiet. Only time you get any real noise of them is when on larger loads like the water heater. It stays at idle most of the time.

Really nice knowing the AC is there if you need it. We usually ran them in the late afternoon before dinner time to get everyone showers and to charge Taryn's DVD player on Bob's boat.

[Go Aweigh2452]

our 2000 worked very well on the trip to Canada. The bouncing we went through was pretty bad at times... We kept it on the bow and it moved about 2"'s in rough (very rough) water. Those footman's loops worked great keeping the Honda tight on the bow with the 2" webstraps...

http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/genny/gennybow.JPG

[Nehalennia]

I'll be definitely looking into the EU1000 or 2000. It was nice for you guys to let me test it out on our trip. Gave me confidence the batts would be charged for the fridge. I was also very happy my Norcold didn't live up to it's reputation and worked flawlessly.

[Randygh]

Doug--What did you use to cover the genny while underway? Was it watertight?

[Apperloo]

Doug--What did you use to cover the genny while underway? Was it watertight?

Yes,that is my question as well........
Do you have a safety chain or anything, or are you very comfortable with the longevity of the strap?
Kinda neat you can shut it off (and start it?) just by reaching thru the hatch, I like that............

[Go Aweigh2452]

I have a silver water resistant Honda cover with an elastic band at the bottom to keep it in place. You may be able to see that cover in one of the boating photos of our trip... I left it on anytime we were not using the generator. I used nothing else to keep it secure to the bow and it stayed on the bow for the entire trip. The seas we went through made a believer out of me to keep it there on the bow. I can even start it from the hatch if I wanted to...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/ToddOlason/CaldwellJul240815.jpg

[Nehalennia]

Found a new EU1000i at a local Pawn shop for $475. Hmmmm.

[Play N Hookie II]

Found a new EU1000i at a local Pawn shop for $475. Hmmmm.

You can usually find the EU 2000 on CL for $500 to $550. Everytime I find one I want it is in Gig Harbor or Tacoma or somewhere I don't feel like driving to for that. But I keep looking and that is about the right price. I bet you may get the 1000 for $400.

[SomeSailor]

I'd save the chips for awhile longer and opt for the 2000.

8.3A isn't much power in the end. In best case, 8.3A won't produce enough current to heat a water heater (assuming a 1000W element). (8.3A only makes 996W)

The eu2000 will heat water, cook on an electric range, run a blow drier or simply provide most everything your shore power will.

Much better choice (IMO)

[Play N Hookie II]

I'd save the chips for awhile longer and opt for the 2000.

8.3A isn't much power in the end. In best case, 8.3A won't produce enough current to heat a water heater (assuming a 1000W element). (8.3A only makes 996W)

The eu2000 will heat water, cook on an electric range, run a blow drier or simply provide most everything your shore power will.

Much better choice (IMO)

Mike,

You know alot about amperage so I have a quick question. One of the main reasons I would want an inverter would be for our laptop. Would you say there is anything wrong with forgoing the inverter and just buying an AC plug for our laptop? I have an AC plug installed in the cabin right next to the dining table and another at the helm for charging up the spotlight. I have heard that generator power is dirty and can be bad for sensitive electronics. Is there issues with the AC as well?

[Go Aweigh2452]

Mike,

You know alot about amperage so I have a quick question. One of the main reasons I would want an inverter would be for our laptop. Would you say there is anything wrong with forgoing the inverter and just buying an AC plug for our laptop? I have an AC plug installed in the cabin right next to the dining table and another at the helm for charging up the spotlight. I have heard that generator power is dirty and can be bad for sensitive electronics. Is there issues with the AC as well?

I purchased a Targus 12 v charger for my laptop that worked well with my laptop. Just something to consider. The laptop AC changes it to DC anyway... Check out your manufacturer and see if they recommend one then go on ebay and buy it... Targus makes a bunch of them...

[Nehalennia]

Mike,

You know alot about amperage so I have a quick question. One of the main reasons I would want an inverter would be for our laptop. Would you say there is anything wrong with forgoing the inverter and just buying an AC plug for our laptop? I have an AC plug installed in the cabin right next to the dining table and another at the helm for charging up the spotlight. I have heard that generator power is dirty and can be bad for sensitive electronics. Is there issues with the AC as well?


I purchased a Targus 12 v charger for my laptop that worked well with my laptop. Just something to consider. The laptop AC changes it to DC anyway... Check out your manufacturer and see if they recommend one then go on ebay and buy it... Targus makes a bunch of them...

in my truck I use a Targus AVP10US 100W inverter. About the size of 2 packs of cigarettes side by side. Works well. I bring it on the boat when I have the laptop aboard.

[SomeSailor]

Mike,

You know alot about amperage so I have a quick question. One of the main reasons I would want an inverter would be for our laptop. Would you say there is anything wrong with forgoing the inverter and just buying an AC plug for our laptop? I have an AC plug installed in the cabin right next to the dining table and another at the helm for charging up the spotlight. I have heard that generator power is dirty and can be bad for sensitive electronics. Is there issues with the AC as well?

I thought you were talking about getting a genny, but an inverter has some pretty serious limitations. I have a 2000A Coleman inverter on my boat in addition to the Honda.

The Honda is an inverter generator. It doesn't make AC in the conventional way. The generator builds DC which is then rectified into AC. It makes for much cleaner power.

The Coleman I have is a "modified sine" inverter, which is OK for computers and the likes, but don't let the voltages get too low on your batts. They clock square-wave DC at 60 cycles to "feel" like AC to most appliances.

If you're talking about running your laptop on a DC plug, that would work just fine, but there are some other REALLY cool advantages to having a genny aboard. (especially the Honda)

My only comment was on the value of a 2000 over a 1000. Both are great units, but a 1000 will have some things it just can't do (at all).

[Nehalennia]

.........My only comment was on the value of a 2000 over a 1000. Both are great units, but a 1000 will have some things it just can't do (at all).
I like the smaller size of the 1000, I do understand the benefits of the 2000, but I really would just like to recharge the batts if out on the hook. Scott, Don and Doug, were kind enough to let Mo and I plug into their 2000's on our trip while they were also plugged in, so I figured the 1000 would be suffice. But, I suppose if I get the 2000 I can pay it forward to whoever's with us on the hook.

[Gunkholes]

I like the smaller size of the 1000, I do understand the benefits of the 2000, but I really would just like to recharge the batts if out on the hook. Scott, Don and Doug, were kind enough to let Mo and I plug into their 2000's on our trip while they were also plugged in, so I figured the 1000 would be suffice. But, I suppose if I get the 2000 I can pay it forward to whoever's with us on the hook.

During the recent ham Field Day, we paralleled a couple of the 2000 units for 4KW. I'm not sure you can do that with the 1000. Nice option, if ever needed.

[Nehalennia]

During the recent ham Field Day, we paralleled a couple of the 2000 units for 4KW. I'm not sure you can do that with the 1000. Nice option, if ever needed.

Yes the 1000's allow it as well.

[SomeSailor]

The 2000's are much more efficient as well. What most people don't realize is they're really only a nuisance when they're outside the eco-Throttle range (1/4 throttle).

A 2000 can make 400watts at 1/4 load but a 1000 can only hold up 225W without throttles up.

That means a lot of hours listening to an annoying genny.

[Nehalennia]

The 2000's are much more efficient as well. What most people don't realize is they're really only a nuisance when they're outside the eco-Throttle range (1/4 throttle).

A 2000 can make 400watts at 1/4 load but a 1000 can only hold up 225W without throttles up.

That means a lot of hours listening to an annoying genny.

That right there may be the best arguement to get the 2000. I don't like the drone of gennies period, but if it's quieter while running at "eco-throttle" that sounds better to me.

[SomeSailor]

You can run a 2000 at idle, and produce 75% more power than the 1000 can before increasing to full throttle.

That says a LOT for fuel economy as well.

[Nehalennia]

Makes sense.

[Sundancer]

I'll second the 2000. It's the only way to go. I can run both electric elements on the old stove or power the hot water heater and charge the batteries. When charging the batteries, it's pretty much hovering around idle so it's very quiet. We ran ours on the dock and used the 75 foot cord to move it away from the boat. That was a pleasing way to have it running when we needed power. It took about 45 minutes to heat cold water until the thermostat shut down the element. We usually didn't wait and started using warm water after about 20 minutes or so.

[Sundancer]

Tried to load my picture of the two gennies running at Reid Harbor, but it won't take it. DOH! I'll shrink it and try it again! Holger and I broke them out for a quick charge after being out for the third or fourth night and to heat some water!

[SomeSailor]

That was a pleasing way to have it running when we needed power. It took about 45 minutes to heat cold water until the thermostat shut down the element. We usually didn't wait and started using warm water after about 20 minutes or so.

I'm installing a "demand" hot water heater this fall in mine so I can have shower and sink hot water as I may want it on the hook. They're pretty reasonable nowadays.