Bayliner burns in Port Orchard

[burrman]

I hope this isn't someone you know.
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/apr/28/boat-burns-port-orchard-marina/

[Go Aweigh2452]

Read the article and found the owners had posted below the story...


Posted by FARWELLPLSW (http://www.kitsapsun.com/users/FARWELLPLSW/) on April 28, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal (http://www.kitsapsun.com/comments/flag/123363/))
As an avid boater and owner of Serenity, I am very impressed with the the quick actions of Fire Department in mitigating damage to the marina and surrounding craft. The police department apparently was out with thier boat and fire crew to relocate Serenity to a much more prudent location. If this happened anywhere else would we have seen the response, or professionalism, good judgement. I wonder. We are happy no one was injured or others property damaged. Phil & Carol (PS we"ll replace it and continue boating)

[oh_wells]

We used to keep our boat at Sinclair Inlet Marina and always saw that boat on our way in and out. What a shame.

[Nehalennia]

Bad day. I can't imagine.

[Randygh]

Posted by FARWELLPLSW on April 28, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As an avid boater and owner of Serenity, I am very impressed with the the quick actions of Fire Department in mitigating damage to the marina and surrounding craft.


I think the fellow meant to say "prevent or minimizie damage." I can't think how the fire and police departments mitigated damage expecially since there was no damage to mitigate. Hmmmm. (I must be getting too anal as I grow older).

[bradvo]

Posted by FARWELLPLSW on April 28, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As an avid boater and owner of Serenity, I am very impressed with the the quick actions of Fire Department in mitigating damage to the marina and surrounding craft.


I think the fellow meant to say "prevent or minimizie damage." I can't think how the fire and police departments mitigated damage expecially since there was no damage to mitigate. Hmmmm. (I must be getting too anal as I grow older).

or he was quoted wrong

[SomeSailor]

I think he was correct in using "mitigate". To reduce the risk of the rest of the marina, they cut him loose and towed him out. That mitigated the risk of losing others and damage to the marina itself.

[Randygh]

No, mitigate means to trade of offset the adverse effects of an action by improving something else, not to reduce the risk. For example, a business plans to build near the banks of a slough. In order to mitigate the adverse environmental effects of building at the site, the business commits funds or does the work to improve nesting habitat in an area of a nearby estruary by planting native grasses and removing noxious plants. The mitigation plans must be approved by numerous agencies and government entities.


Here's a true scenario. Years ago the Stemilt Land Company, which was owned by a group if rich Seattle developers, purchased a section (640 acres) of land near Mission Ridge from a private owner. The property is native shrub-steppe and coniferous forest.The property is heavly used as a seasonal elk migratory corridor. The developers had grandiose plans to build several hundred homes on the property. The WDFW required the developer to mitigate the adverse impact on the migrating elk by providing a migratory corridor. The developer came up with a laughable mitigation plan. The land company decided to not put in as many homes in order to provide a 90' wide elk migratory corridor. What a joke, elk may or may not have used corridor, but to believe a 90' corridor would offset the adverse impact of planting several hundred homes in 640 acres was ridiculous. Unfortunately the Chelan County planning commission and WDFW said the mitigation plan was ok. (Politics played a key role in the affirmative decision.) No homes were ever built, the property is for sale for several million $$. The Chelan County fire district put the kibosh on the development when it demanded the developer to provide 2 ingress/egress roads that would be built to allow for a large firetruck to access the section of land year around.

[tolly28]

Verb 1. mitigate - lessen or to try to lessen the seriousness or extent of; "The circumstances extenuate the crime"

2. mitigate - make less severe or harsh; "mitigating circumstances"
lighten, relieve - alleviate or remove (pressure or stress) or make less oppressive; "relieve the pressure and the stress"; "lighten the burden of caring for her elderly parents"
minify, decrease, lessen - make smaller; "He decreased his staff"

[bradvo]

He decreased his staff ?
what he do, go in the water.....










:-)

[SomeSailor]

It think you guys are hung up on minimize. :)

If you "mitigate" a risk, you are trying to reduce the amount of loss from a potential future occurrence of an event. In this case, by moving the boat, they "mitigated" the risk of a conflagration that could have potentially damaged more property.

They "mitigated" that risk... it did nothing to "minimize" the damage to the Bayliner that was on fire.

I work in risk mitigation and management all day long here. The terminology can be a bit weird at first. But, I believe he was correct.

[Randygh]

Mike--You are correct. The fire department mitigated the RISK of damage, not the actual damage.

"As an avid boater and owner of Serenity, I am very impressed with the the quick actions of Fire Department in mitigating damage to the marina and surrounding craft."

In resource management mitigation refers to offsetting the effects on a natural resource by a proposed future action. If the Bayliner leaked diesel oil, the fire department or CG would have deployed a floating boom to mitigate adverse risk posed by the oil on the local environment. By towing away the Bay, the FD mitigated the risk of a major conflagration to the marina.

[Go Aweigh2452]

I once asked a couple of lawyer friends during lunch what they thought of the definition of illegal... They actually went into this long... I mean long... description, each adding stuff. In the end they asked if I now understood the term... No Says I... I thought it was a sick bird...

[RafaelFigueira]

They "mitigated" that risk... it did nothing to "minimize" the damage to the Bayliner that was on fire.

*Exactly*. That's why the quote of the "avid boater" was incorrect. He said "mitigate damage", not "mitigate the risk of damage". Maybe he was so avid and ended up swallowing a word or two.

[Go Aweigh2452]

I'd be pretty tongue tied myself if I saw my $250,000 yacht go up in flames... I thought his response was almost practiced...

[TacomaCouple]

Great pics!!! That is a sad situation, for sure.

My question: What do you actually do with a burned out hull of a boat after a fire? Sink it? Use it for something?

[Randygh]

TC--Good question. Will the insurance company adjuster(s) declare the boat a total loss and pay off the owner, then try to salvage engines, genny, and other items? It's really sad to see such a beautiful boat go up in flames.

[Play N Hookie II]

TC--Good question. Will the insurance company adjuster(s) declare the boat a total loss and pay off the owner, then try to salvage engines, genny, and other items? It's really sad to see such a beautiful boat go up in flames.

The insurance company likely wants nothing to do with the salvage. They would probably get a bid for what they could sell the salvage for (I am sure there is a local yard that does this) and then pay out to the insured unless they wanted to buy it back for the same salvage rate. At least that is how it works on the auto side but then there are salvage yards that do this all day for autos so I cannot speak to the boat but that is my guess.

[SomeSailor]

My question: What do you actually do with a burned out hull of a boat after a fire? Sink it? Use it for something?

She'll be sold at auction or through a salvage bid. Probably tens of thousands worth of running gear on that boat.