Is this shaft long enough?

[Play N Hookie II]

Does anyone know if this shaft would be long enough for me to use for a kicker motor? Does anyone happen to know the weight difference between the 9.9 and the 25? I kind of like the idea of the 25 over the 9.9. Any help is appreciated.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/1206611606.html

This sounds like it might be perfect for me. It is a two stroke but I understand that I can get some kind of adaptor that will add oil to the fuel in-line? Does anyone have any experience with that?

[voyager]

It looks like an OK deal. As far as length it would depend on where you mount it. Since you have all the remote stuff I would think about mounting it directly onto the swim step with a lift up bracket so it can be raised out of the water. How far from the swim step to the bottom of your boat? I also think Merc sell an extension that bolts on right above the lower unit that can extend the shaft.

As to the weight I don't really know about two strokes but my four stroke 8 hp weighs in at 81 Pd's. They use the same head for most of the 8 through 15 hp engines. The 25 is a different head. I think the 25 would be a good size for you, it could be used for trolling as well as an emergency motor to get back to port.

PS take the old boat and make a planter out of it, the admiral will love it, just make sure you have it partially buried and full of plants as a suprize for her. Bwah, HA,HA, HA

[Tedster]

Way too big and way too heavy for your application. Now a long shaft is what you will need and a 9.9 weighs the same as a 15hp..........keep looking. :)

[voyager]

Why is it to heavy? what is the weight of a 15 HP two stroke? I would think a 28 could handle the 119 pds?

[voyager]

OK I looked it up the difference is 34 Pd's from the 15 to the 25. Just move your beer to the front of the boat.

[Randygh]

Check out this Honda:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/boa/1206691078.html

[SomeSailor]

Way too big and way too heavy for your application. Now a long shaft is what you will need and a 9.9 weighs the same as a 15hp..........keep looking. :)

Put it this way;

My 9.9 4-Stroke weighs 133#

This 25HP 2-stroke weighs 119#

If you can put up with a 2 stroke it's a net SAVINGS in weight and GAIN of 15HP.

:)

I say it's an awesome deal.

[sunnydude2]

Doesn't the rating of the mount you are going to use come into play as well? On our 2850 we added a mount to the swimstep and a reinforcing support and it was only rated for a 15hp.

[Play N Hookie II]

I spoke to Bayside marine about the in-line oil injector and he told me that he really does not reccomend them. He said they make the engine run really rich and are not too functional. What I really wanted with that motor was the steering control and the throttle. I haven't seen too many that come with it and that can be a big expense to add. I was also told by the Bayside marine tech that the 9.9 Yamaha high thrust or the Mercury bigfoot will put out the same thrust as that 2 stroke 25 and that I would be much happier with the 4 stroke 9.9 for this application. I prefer to be able to use the same fuel tank as the main engine but then again I already keep the mixed tank for the dink motor so maybe it wouldn't be too bad. $1500 for a 2001 25 with remote steering and throttle controls seems like a pretty good deal. $300 mount and I would be setup pretty good for under 2k. I need to measure the swimstep to the bottom of the boat. From what I have seen on other 2855's it seems like the fixed mount would be a better option for me.

[Go Aweigh2452]

I spoke to Bayside marine about the in-line oil injector and he told me that he really does not reccomend them. He said they make the engine run really rich and are not too functional. What I really wanted with that motor was the steering control and the throttle. I haven't seen too many that come with it and that can be a big expense to add. I was also told by the Bayside marine tech that the 9.9 Yamaha high thrust or the Mercury bigfoot will put out the same thrust as that 2 stroke 25 and that I would be much happier with the 4 stroke 9.9 for this application. I prefer to be able to use the same fuel tank as the main engine but then again I already keep the mixed tank for the dink motor so maybe it wouldn't be too bad. $1500 for a 2001 25 with remote steering and throttle controls seems like a pretty good deal. $300 mount and I would be setup pretty good for under 2k. I need to measure the swimstep to the bottom of the boat. From what I have seen on other 2855's it seems like the fixed mount would be a better option for me.

I am very happy with my Merc 9.9 Big Foot fix mounted... Look for one with electric start too. I use EZ Trol to steer it too.
http://www.bremertonnjrotc.com/goaweighto/newboat%20310%20%28Small%29.jpg

[SomeSailor]

What I really wanted with that motor was the steering control and the throttle. I haven't seen too many that come with it and that can be a big expense to add.

Well... that's a steering control and throttle quadrant for a helm mount,not for an axillary steering. It's not what you'd want. That motor also has no tiller controls. Those are more expensive than the throttle. The throttle is around $250 brand news.

I'd still recommend a 9.9 4 stroke plumbed to the main motor.

Lots of them out there.

[Play N Hookie II]

Well... that's a steering control and throttle quadrant for a helm mount,not for an axillary steering. It's not what you'd want. That motor also has no tiller controls. Those are more expensive than the throttle. The throttle is around $250 brand news.

I'd still recommend a 9.9 4 stroke plumbed to the main motor.

Lots of them out there.

He was telling me that it was the remote steering and not the helm steering. But I think I agree anyhow that the 9.9 plumbed is the way I want to go. I may just add the ez-troll later or something.

My dive computer is toast so I have to drop a boat buck to replace that or I cannot dive so the kicker is likely going to have to take a back seat or I may get stuck buying a stupid Land Rover8)

[sunnydude2]

My dive computer is toast so I have to drop a boat buck to replace that or I cannot dive so the kicker is likely going to have to take a back seat or I may get stuck buying a stupid Land Rover8)

You know in the old days they didn't use computers for diving. :)

[voyager]

One thing to think about when using the main tank for a kicker is that if you lose the main engine it will normally be from an electrical or a fuel problem. If the kicker is on it's own fuel system than you are safe.

[Play N Hookie II]

You know in the old days they didn't use computers for diving. :)

I did five dives recently on an analog spg and depth guage and I really didn't like it. I got very used to my computer and don't want to go back to using the tables. I feel much safer with a good reg and a good computer. Makes diving more enjoyable to feel safe.

[Go Aweigh2452]

One thing to think about when using the main tank for a kicker is that if you lose the main engine it will normally be from an electrical or a fuel problem. If the kicker is on it's own fuel system than you are safe.

I'm not convinced that will negate the use of the kicker. I had a couple of break downs... one was my power steering pulley broke shutting down the engine, another was low oil shut down and another was main engine fuel starvation from a contaminated fuel water filter. All three times I used the main tank to run the kicker and get us home. I have a separate fuel filter on the kicker and it draws its own fuel without the need for a fuel pump... Those three times alone bought and paid for a kicker vice calling for a tow... I do keep minimum tow insurance...

[SomeSailor]

He was telling me that it was the remote steering and not the helm steering.

He's incorrect. That motor does not have remote steering (at least not in the sense Doug and I are talking about). There is a hydraulic pump, and a solenoid setup, as well as a cylinder that moves the motor back and forth.

[SomeSailor]

One thing to think about when using the main tank for a kicker is that if you lose the main engine it will normally be from an electrical or a fuel problem. If the kicker is on it's own fuel system than you are safe.

Another reason to have a 4 stroke kicker. My dinghy tank connects to the motor as well. I can both kicker and dinghy from portable tanks.

I've even given thought to a fuel inlet for the main motor that way. You wouldn't be able to get far on 3 gallon tanks for the main motor, but if you fouled the main, having emergency capability is nice.

I already fuel both my dinghy tank and the Honda off that kicker line when out on the hook. Saves carrying spare gas tanks. :)

[Tedster]

Doesn't the rating of the mount you are going to use come into play as well? On our 2850 we added a mount to the swimstep and a reinforcing support and it was only rated for a 15hp.

That is what I'm getting at exactly!

[Play N Hookie Admiral]

You know in the old days they didn't use computers for diving. :)

That may be true for some...some people also dive alone...however, I really like it when Erik comes back so he dives with buddies and computers and crazy stuff like that. All the life insurance in the world cannot replace my husband. :cool:

....It could, however, buy me several Rovers!

[sunnydude2]

That may be true for some...some people also dive alone...however, I really like it when Erik comes back so he dives with buddies and computers and crazy stuff like that. All the life insurance in the world cannot replace my husband. :cool:

A little ribbing is fun. :) One of my first purchases was a computer.


....It could, however, buy me several Rovers!

You sound like my wife now. :)

[SomeSailor]

A little ribbing is fun. :) One of my first purchases was a computer.

I've got more dive computer in my watch now than my first computer in 1988 when I got certified.

[RafaelFigueira]

Way too big

That's what she said.

[Nehalennia]

Erik
I'm not trying to spend your money....ok yes maybe, it's easier than spending mine, but I saw this and thought of you.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/1259259215.html

[bradvo]

I must be out of touch, almost 3,000 bucks for a 10 hp motor ?

[Nehalennia]

I must be out of touch, almost 3,000 bucks for a 10 hp motor ?

Yeah, nothing decent is inexpensive anymore.

[Stray Cat]

I've got more dive computer in my watch now than my first computer in 1988 when I got certified.

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/438/209/86/seahunt1.jpg

Mike Nelson says "we don't need no stickin' 'puters!"

[SomeSailor]

I must be out of touch, almost 3,000 bucks for a 10 hp motor ?

4-Stroke Mercs have been around that price for the last 10 years. With electric start and charger, they're around $3500 new.